S01E04 - Jason Ross
Voice of Kings play-by-play and host of "Locked on Kings" and "Stingers Up" podcasts
S01E04 - Jason Ross
Jason Ross is the current play-by-play voice for the Sacramento Kings and is the co-host of "The Drive", with Carmichael Dave weekdays, from 6am to 9am on Sports 1140 KHTK in Sacramento.
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[00:00:51] And on that kind of note when to introduce our wonderful guests here this evening. Uh, Mr. Jason Ross of, uh, many hats. We'll get into all of that to currently 1140 doing Sac State football and the Sacramento Kings basketball morning show. Uh, do you. Do you wash cars or anything?
[00:01:12] Jason Ross: [00:01:12] That's enough hats, isn't it?
[00:01:13] And ideas
[00:01:14] Jerry Reynolds: [00:01:14] enough. That's a lot of hats, Jerry
[00:01:15] And actually you kind of need a hat.
[00:01:17] Jason Ross: [00:01:17] You're getting little fan and we're starting there already.
[00:01:19] Jerry Reynolds: [00:01:19] Yeah, we are.
[00:01:19] Jason Ross: [00:01:19] Okay, well take cheap shots.
[00:01:21] Just get them all out of the front. Just get them all out of the front. If I would, I would wear a hat, but know that's, this set looks great.
[00:01:27] I didn't want to wear a hat on here.
[00:01:28] Jerry Reynolds: [00:01:28] Yeah, no, you're right. That was, I can't tarnish it.
[00:01:31] I, I should apologize, but that probably wouldn't be me.
[00:01:36] No cheap shots or [inaudible], a couple couple things going back into your, your past, uh, your, you graduated from UC Davis in 94, and, uh, now this is what, I don't know, a bachelor of arts and rhetoric and communications.
[00:01:54] Now, what does that exactly mean.
[00:01:56] Jason Ross: [00:01:56] Is that BS basically is what it sounds like. Yeah. Yeah. Rhetoric. The rhetoric was the title. Obviously communications is more of what my background was, but UC Davis did more of their communication studies with a lot of theory stuff. More of men and women differences.
[00:02:13] Nonverbal verbal, like Socrates, Plato, like historical stuff. I wanted to sit in front of a camera and a microphone. That's not a school that necessarily did that, but, um, once I knew I wanted to get into kind of media. That's the, that's the major I ultimately chose
[00:02:28] Jerry Reynolds: [00:02:28] prior to going to UC Davis. So what about high school and some of your interest at that time?
[00:02:35] Jason Ross: [00:02:35] Well, I always have loved sports from, from day one, from my family, my cousin, years ago, Greg nettles played for the Yankees, so I always wanted to be third base for the Yankees and it didn't work out. Did it. Well, there's still time to time I can wear my Yankees had, that's a good point. I haven't given up.
[00:02:51] Jerry, you never should give up. Never give up. Yeah. Now the Yankees haven't called. I still wait by the phone, but I'll keep waiting. Um, but yeah, played sports all growing up and, uh, grade school, high school, uh, tried that Davis as well. Um. It just just wasn't good enough, but loved it. I absolutely loved a bunch of sports, played everything I could.
[00:03:10] I always felt like I was good enough to be on all the teams, but I was never the star and that was fine. I was kind of, I would say, closer to natural at a lot of the things, but never like, wow, he's the best player on the team. It's just. Decent at at a lot of sports.
[00:03:24] Jerry Reynolds: [00:03:24] It's kind of a catch 22 in it. I mean, I always say it's like the, the, the infielder that can play a lot is a lot of spots, right?
[00:03:31] You know, the character actor in movies that have great careers and everybody knows their face. If
[00:03:37] Jason Ross: [00:03:37] they don't know what did, where did I know you from?
[00:03:39] Jerry Reynolds: [00:03:39] Yeah, exactly. That, that type thing. And you, and yet, you know, not quite yet. Yeah, our building star money, that sort of thing,
[00:03:45] Jason Ross: [00:03:45] which I was fine with. I just, you know, I tried to play as long as I could, and like I said, it went to Davis initially and, and red shirted and baseball, and then was playing basketball and basketball all the time.
[00:03:56] And growing up in Southern California watching UCLA or other schools play, I thought, Oh, college basketball. I mean, you've got to be. To be a shooting guard. Six six you know, I was watching Reggie Miller. I'm like, I'm nowhere near as tall as him at near as good as him. So I never thought about playing basketball in college, but I was playing all the time and then playing with the guys in the team and they said, well, why aren't you on this team?
[00:04:16] Why don't you come out for the team? So my third year at Davis went out for the team, made it all the way to the end, got cut. Buddy of mine was doing the broadcasting. It's like, I'm doing the game this weekend. You've been with the team, why don't you sit in with me? And I thought, well. Sure, and right then and there I'm like, this is exactly
[00:04:32] Jerry Reynolds: [00:04:32] what I wanted out of this, what you want before, you know, before that.
[00:04:36] That, you know, that moment that that hadn't been something, you know, as, as, as, uh, talking to grant Naper, you know, that's one of those things he, he worked on when he's four years
[00:04:46] Jason Ross: [00:04:46] old. It was like crazy. Did he, did he do the commercials for you? No. No. You haven't heard him do is convert. Like he's did commercials for the class in grade school.
[00:04:54] Yeah. Just crazy.
[00:04:55] Jerry Reynolds: [00:04:55] Yeah. And then, you know, going out at recess and calling the game. Right. Little kids are playing. Yes. I mean, there's, there's, uh, there's just many. Many
[00:05:05] Jason Ross: [00:05:05] elements that have, it's hard to grasp,
[00:05:07] Jerry Reynolds: [00:05:07] right? But no one grant, uh, you know, that that's who he is. You know what I mean? It's just gifted. But I mean, in your case, you, you know, through high school you were more interested in just normal pursuits, being an athlete, uh, going to school, that's part of high school.
[00:05:21] Did you go to
[00:05:22] Jason Ross: [00:05:22] Woodbridge and Irvine. So it was, it was a good school. We had, I mean, actually really good sports programs. Um, most famous NBA guy, Adam Keef went there. So I was a freshman when they won the state title. He was a junior. Then my sophomore year, he was still playing and obviously went on to an NBA career lottery pick.
[00:05:38] And so,
[00:05:40] Jerry Reynolds: [00:05:40] yeah, a lottery pick of Utah, I think, right?
[00:05:42] Jason Ross: [00:05:42] Yeah. Or no. Atlanta, the Atlanta Hawks.
[00:05:45] Jerry Reynolds: [00:05:45] I tried to 11th or 12th, I always remember scouting him. I'm like, tough, tough guy, you know, and I think one of those things he was. Just so tough and physical in the college game, but it didn't quite translate to the NBA.
[00:05:56] You know? He could still play,
[00:05:57] Jason Ross: [00:05:57] but, and a great volleyball player is a great athlete. I actually, yeah,
[00:06:00] Jerry Reynolds: [00:06:00] one of those guys that probably even better volleyball wasn't,
[00:06:03] Jason Ross: [00:06:03] yeah. I always say he's the second greatest athlete out of Woodbridge, and.
[00:06:07] Jerry Reynolds: [00:06:07] I think a lot of people would agree with
[00:06:08] Jason Ross: [00:06:08] that second, and so who's first?
[00:06:10] Well, well, we don't, I would say, but when, of course, we don't know if the rest of the Hill
[00:06:14] Jerry Reynolds: [00:06:14] wasn't. Obviously your parents, they would have a moment
[00:06:17] Jason Ross: [00:06:17] actually wouldn't agree.
[00:06:19] Jerry Reynolds: [00:06:19] That's why I can always told the story about my mother. You know, she was talking about Larry Bird a different deal, but anyway, she saying, well, wasn't he a real good player, Jerry?
[00:06:28] I said, yeah, he really was. Was he better than you? I said, Oh, mom gets serious. Of course. What
[00:06:33] Jason Ross: [00:06:33] does he ever done? You know?
[00:06:35] Jerry Reynolds: [00:06:35] Exactly. You know, moms, yeah. Her mom, she showed they should support you. They should say that, you know, they don't need to know everything.
[00:06:41] Jason Ross: [00:06:41] That's right. That's right. You know, it's
[00:06:43] Jerry Reynolds: [00:06:43] better that way.
[00:06:43] Less is better. Yeah. But, uh, okay. So that was your kind of moment of, uh, and then, so after that. Kind of tipping your foot into the well, what, what happened
[00:06:58] Jason Ross: [00:06:58] after that? Yeah, so I guess just one prior thing, which some people I guess find it hard to believe prior to that. Part of the thing of going to Davis was great school opportunity to play some sports.
[00:07:07] Also, I had an interest in maybe becoming a vet, and so that's great school for that and I was doing. A lot of the premed stuff, but that's if I'm going in, you got to go all in. And I worked a summer before that year that I tried out for basketball at the vet and enjoyed it, but I realized now that's, that's not where I wanted to go.
[00:07:26] The basketball thing. I was trying to, you know, I wasn't going to go anywhere further than even a minimal role on the Davis team, if any. But. Then the announcing part. Yeah. It came to fruition.
[00:07:36] Jerry Reynolds: [00:07:36] You've done, you know, of course basketball, football, baseball, I think
[00:07:41] Jason Ross: [00:07:41] is, and a little bit of soccer. I'm trying to think of.
[00:07:46] But willing to do whatever.
[00:07:47] Jerry Reynolds: [00:07:47] yeah. So, I mean, what would be your
[00:07:49] Jason Ross: [00:07:49] favorite? It's really seasonal, and I don't know if you're, I know you're a sports fan in general that people ask you, I'm sure will ask me. And maybe some people just assume it's basketball for you, but I don't know when football is going. I'm really into it when baseball is going Olympics tennis, sometimes golf.
[00:08:03] I mean, I. I honestly enjoyed just about every sport and I can get totally engaged into whatever I'm watching, whether I'm as a fan attending it or at home on the TV.
[00:08:13] Jerry Reynolds: [00:08:13] You don't want to. That's a great, great point. I, you know, people always assume, you know, that my first love was basketball and it really wasn't.
[00:08:22] Jason Ross: [00:08:22] wasn't baseball.
[00:08:22] Jerry Reynolds: [00:08:22] Yeah. That's nice. You know, and. I would, I was very good. I even played on the varsity in eighth grade. Wow. They made exceptions for some small schools. Uh, but, you know, but with basketball, with the, the interest from fans in Indiana, it's pretty hard not to fall on, you know, let's face it, you know, you play in front of three or 4,000 people every night and cheerleaders, and the whole bed, it's, uh, in baseball was parents and a couple of few others, a few others, you know.
[00:08:50] And so. Didn't take me long to hear, man. Yeah. I think this is probably gonna work better
[00:08:54] Jason Ross: [00:08:54] for me. The basketball bug. Yeah. So you are much better, you'd say a baseball and basketball.
[00:08:58] Jerry Reynolds: [00:08:58] I was early, you know, but I didn't put the time in, you know. Um, I did. I w it's off the tuck top me, but I was invited to a tryout camp for the Pittsburgh pirates after my senior year, and it seemed more Indiana.
[00:09:13] I always remember it because. Are they, you know, in those days, and this is, goes back, only the old people would remember that, where they had Scouts everywhere and they'd have had about 50 kids come in from I think Western Ohio and Southern Indiana and Northern Kentucky, you know, all, and worked a few days.
[00:09:31] And, but I always remember this, the man running, the thing was getting. Pete Bolan, who was, uh, one of the main guest Scouts for the pirates, and he called me an out on the second day and we talked a little bit and he said, he said, I understand you're, you're really a good basketball player and got a scotch.
[00:09:50] Some scholarships offered. He, I said, yes, sir. And he said, well, that's probably what you ought to do. He said, he said, you know, you've got great hands, but you don't hit with power and your arm isn't strong enough.
[00:10:03] Jason Ross: [00:10:03] No crush your spirit.
[00:10:04] Jerry Reynolds: [00:10:04] My spirit was crushed down
[00:10:06] Jason Ross: [00:10:06] for a
[00:10:06] Jerry Reynolds: [00:10:06] little while, but, uh, but you know, I mean, you were there, but the guy, I mean, I had no, he's right.
[00:10:12] Yeah. You know, I mean, he was trying to just be, be straight with. Right. I think, you know, I think most athletes, if somebody just tells you as straight and as honest as they can, it's probably best.
[00:10:23] Jason Ross: [00:10:23] Yeah. No, that's true. I mean, you have to, I still think people have to fight through. Maybe they find a lane somewhere, but I mean, once you get to about as far as you can, then it's, yeah.
[00:10:32] All right.
[00:10:32] Jerry Reynolds: [00:10:32] This is probably my ceiling. Obviously, you know, athletes like I do that I've been told something that really wasn't accurate. Lamar Jackson is a pretty good example of that right now.
[00:10:41] Jason Ross: [00:10:41] Yeah. Let's make your receiver know he might be the MVP. It probably will be the MVP. Probably. Will. People want more people like him now.
[00:10:47] Jerry Reynolds: [00:10:47] Yeah. And but like, it, uh. At at Davis and you know, basically it was just a case where whatever sport was up, you were, you're
[00:10:55] Jason Ross: [00:10:55] reacting to it. I was, yeah. Broadcasting it or into it or trying to play it. I played all sorts of weird intermurals. I mean, once like the definite playing on the team, you know, run was done.
[00:11:06] It was. You know, softball to a coed softball, water polo, indoor hockey, uh, just anything I, I've just loved sports can never get enough and played wiffle ball with all my roommates. Emily has great, great up games. I mean, whatever, whatever we could.
[00:11:23] Jerry Reynolds: [00:11:23] Yeah. That, I always say I, growing up, you know, when you didn't have a lot of kids, you always made up your own rules.
[00:11:29] And I did just to, you know, we'd have. Like eight kids and and in our little country area there. And so you couldn't have enough for. To baseball, but you have four on four, so you can only play on one half the field or something like that and this, that and the other. But you know, you, you do what you do right.
[00:11:47] Can do to make it fun.
[00:11:48] Jason Ross: [00:11:48] And then you're influenced by what you see. I can remember being very young and the someone we both ended up getting to know who worked with the Kings was Eric Heiden. It was a team doctor, but a famous Olympian. And I remember putting on, I guess it was roller skates back then, and I was really young and I pretend to be a speed skater in the street.
[00:12:02] And. Yeah. Whatever you watch, whatever influenced you. And then it's like, I can be dr Jay, I can be Eric Heiden, I can be, you know, Jimmy Connors, and you just tried to be all those people.
[00:12:13] Jerry Reynolds: [00:12:13] Yeah. You know, you have, I always say, too, as a kid growing up, your heroes are usually, you know, just a few years older than you, you know, I mean, uh, my hero is a.
[00:12:23] High school kid or freshman eighth grader was Marvin Pruitt was nobody, but he was marvelous. Marvin in French lick and Springs Valley high school and led the team to state and played at Evansville you. It's like, wow, Marvin. Marvelous Marvin. If I could just be like, yeah, you know, that was, that was something, but you're talking about Eric Heiden, and I always remember this because he was obviously team doctor, especially for the monarchs when I was running the monarchs and, and you know, I know what a huge.
[00:12:50] Right, international, he and celebrity, he was as you do, and almost none of the players did. And you know, he was
[00:12:58] Jason Ross: [00:12:58] such a humble. Yeah. You would never guess it
[00:13:00] Jerry Reynolds: [00:13:00] a nice man. It's not something he'd ever bring up. And I'm thinking, you know, but yeah, but
[00:13:05] Jason Ross: [00:13:05] he was an athlete of the century, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah.
[00:13:07] I mean, you can, I call
[00:13:09] Jerry Reynolds: [00:13:09] higher than he was.
[00:13:10] Jason Ross: [00:13:10] And just to not know.
[00:13:11] Jerry Reynolds: [00:13:11] And I mean, you know, but that's how. I always say that that's how things slip away. You know, where within five or 10 years, the next group really doesn't know, came before them. Right. You know? And of course, I remember when, when I was working for bill Russell and bill Russell came to to coach and be the general manager of the Kings, and I was assistant coach working for bill.
[00:13:32] And. So a lot of the players, you know, they, yeah. Comment, remember the, they say they, they just remember him as a TV announcer because he and Rick Barry were doing a lot of the Hindu games for a few years and he did some commercials. So, you know, but it's like,
[00:13:46] Jason Ross: [00:13:46] what, right. You know?
[00:13:48] Jerry Reynolds: [00:13:48] Yeah. At that time, maybe the greatest, certainly the greatest
[00:13:51] Jason Ross: [00:13:51] winner of all time.
[00:13:52] Sure. Well, and that's, that's a weird reality even now where, you know, the best era in Sacramento Kings is that early two thousands and there. Probably portions of people. I mean, they know the name of Weber Bibby, Peja, Doug, all that. But yeah, I don't know. Darren Fox might move them more, or DeMarcus cousins or whatever that person they grew up with and it's like, wow, these are legends right here and part of the best stage of Kings basketball.
[00:14:14] Jerry Reynolds: [00:14:14] No question. And like you say, I mean, the fact that that dog is still around and doing TV and radio and things that keeps him out front a little bit, but, but more probably a lot. A lot of fan just now, just remember him from that
[00:14:29] Jason Ross: [00:14:29] part.
[00:14:29] Jerry Reynolds: [00:14:29] Amazing career as opposed to what a good player he was. Or Bobby Jackson and sure, Paige, like you say, yeah, changes
[00:14:35] Jason Ross: [00:14:35] fast
[00:14:36] Jerry Reynolds: [00:14:36] and fast and, and, and I understand that, you know, I mean, I get that we do it, you know, as you know, the pregame show or post game show, which we do up on the Concourse.
[00:14:44] I love talking to the fans and stuff, but so many of them, boy, I grew up watching you on TV. I said, well, actually I did a lot of stuff before that.
[00:14:51] Jason Ross: [00:14:51] A lot of
[00:14:52] Jerry Reynolds: [00:14:52] stuff. I mean, yeah. I'm really old, and so you know what stuff
[00:14:57] Jason Ross: [00:14:57] you're proud of that you almost like, Hey, you know what else I've done?
[00:15:00] Jerry Reynolds: [00:15:00] Yeah. I mean, yeah.
[00:15:02] Yeah, it's very true. But you know, I always know that it doesn't mean anything to them and it shouldn't, you know, they have no reason to be concerned about what I did when I was,
[00:15:12] Jason Ross: [00:15:12] you need to carry on a baseball card with all your stats and all your stuff, and I'm out and like, Hey, here's a little reminder.
[00:15:17] Jerry Reynolds: [00:15:17] Well, I mean, up till recently, now, I don't know, maybe it's been changed, but I had the, I bet at four 48 for a career, which was the best in the history of the school.
[00:15:30] Jason Ross: [00:15:30] Now, has it been broken. I think it has,
[00:15:33] Jerry Reynolds: [00:15:33] but I don't know. I mean, up till 10 years ago it hadn't plowed and uh, and so I'm always been kind of proud of that.
[00:15:40] The , there's a kind of a catch on that because it's not like California, right? Where you play 50 games or whatever. The weather such, I mean, right in Indiana,
[00:15:51] Jason Ross: [00:15:51] I said two games. Sample. Oh, is pretty
[00:15:53] Jerry Reynolds: [00:15:53] small. I mean, 15 games, it's still here. 15 games a year kind of thing. I mean, it was just, it just terrible baseball.
[00:16:02] Oh, climate. And that's why there's very few guys, top baseball players come from there. Uh, comparatively speaking, there'll be more guys drafted from Sacramento area than come out of the, the state. Okay. For in five years. You know, I mean, just for a lot of that reason. Plus, you know, kids start focusing on.
[00:16:23] Basketball. Yes. Right when I was in Georgia, if a really good athlete, a coach there for a number of years, most high school athletes with their really good, pretty soon they'd be focusing on football. Yeah. Yeah. Just a different,
[00:16:37] Jason Ross: [00:16:37] yeah. Different meant I might have a school record. Jerry in high school, what was I, this is a very unofficial, but we are playing Laguna beach, Woodbridge high school, just annihilating him.
[00:16:50] Team's score like 27 run 27 to something like that. I made two outs in one ending. We went through the lineup and I mean, I hit the ball hard both times and I hit it right to them and like I was the day I think I went, Oh, for six or Oh for seven everybody on the team had two or three hits. I made two outs in the same meeting.
[00:17:05] Jerry Reynolds: [00:17:05] Now see, now that that
[00:17:06] Jason Ross: [00:17:06] does some, I at least share the record. I can't imagine.
[00:17:09] Jerry Reynolds: [00:17:09] I'm not, I'm not surprised that very few people would admit that. So it's a record of course. I know. But you could have kept it, you know,
[00:17:16] Jason Ross: [00:17:16] I could have, but we're opening up, you know, we are
[00:17:18] Jerry Reynolds: [00:17:18] opening up in a word
[00:17:19] Jason Ross: [00:17:19] share. We're sharing maybe too much we're sharing.
[00:17:23] Jerry Reynolds: [00:17:23] Cause I just think of that too. You know, we talked about all the sports, you know, we loved all sports and that's not quite true. In my case, I, I lettered in cross country in high school and, and went to state.
[00:17:35] Jason Ross: [00:17:35] That doesn't sound
[00:17:36] Jerry Reynolds: [00:17:36] fun. I hate
[00:17:37] Jason Ross: [00:17:37] it. I can't. Why did
[00:17:38] Jerry Reynolds: [00:17:38] you do say, well, he was the basketball coach.
[00:17:42] May thereby run cross country. And then while it was run on the muzzle, it'd be as good as I can be
[00:17:47] Jason Ross: [00:17:47] compassionate,
[00:17:48] Jerry Reynolds: [00:17:48] you know, I always remember, you know, one of those deals that, you know, you're out there running in October and it's cold and punishment and you're going up a Hill. And I remember the coach and, ah, Jerry, you know.
[00:18:00] Come on, you can catch that guy, you, and you know, there's not running down my nose and froze and I'm thinking, I don't want to catch him. I want to, I just want to be
[00:18:08] Jason Ross: [00:18:08] go home. Right.
[00:18:09] Jerry Reynolds: [00:18:09] Yeah. You know,
[00:18:10] Jason Ross: [00:18:10] running always felt like punishment from the other sports, like, you know, you're in trouble or you made an error or you, you know, had a bad defensive game on the football team or basketball team.
[00:18:18] It was running. It was punishment. I didn't like that.
[00:18:20] Jerry Reynolds: [00:18:20] Well, I'm with you there. I mean, I'm, I enjoy track and field because you know, it's a little more, but. Cross country? No, no, no, no. Not for me. I mean, you know, I admire people that, you know, that just go out and run it and run it and love it and bless their hearts.
[00:18:36] Yeah. And I'm not among them. I'm with you. And, uh, so, okay, so now after Davis, what, uh, you know, how did you get kind of get in your first job and.
[00:18:46] Jason Ross: [00:18:46] I'm learning that. Well, I learned pretty quickly how fortunate I've become because right out of school I had basically two options. Um, I was looking for anything in radio or anything in media, and I had an opportunity to go back to orange County to work for, I don't even think it exists anymore.
[00:19:03] The orange County news channel is like a 24 hour news channel. I've, it was an internship and I thought, well, I'll go back home. It's kind of in that area and sure. Or I had sent in a. Demo a tape and a resume to KSDK and they had one local sports talk show, but it was more of a, just kind of talk in general and I met with, then my first boss who hired me was Mike Ramy, and he said he liked my tape, he liked what I had done, but he said all he had open right now was there was going to be a gentleman that was missing two weeks to go on vacation, but could I board up?
[00:19:39] And I was not really excited about that, but I knew that that was my way in. But it would be paid for two weeks. So my decision was to go home to orange County to work for free or try this two week, um, run. And I had a girlfriend at the time that was still up here for the summer. And so I was like, yeah, there's, there were too many things pointing to staying here.
[00:19:59] So I tried the two week run at board opping and the guy never came back. Really never came back.
[00:20:05] Jerry Reynolds: [00:20:05] And if you didn't have anything to do with that, did you, well, Jerry, I'm
[00:20:07] Jason Ross: [00:20:07] not sharing everything we share. Absolutely. I think, um. No, I, it's a mystery. It's almost feels like a figment. Like I tell other people that have been around the station a long time, you remember?
[00:20:18] And I can't even honestly remember, I think his name honestly was Jerry. Um, do you remember that guy Jerry? And they're like, yeah, vaguely. Like a lot of people, I almost feels like I'm making this up, but he, um. Didn't come back after the two weeks, and that was the summer. I just graduated in 94. And so I stayed on kind of doing that shift of board hopping.
[00:20:38] But in that summer cage, decay got the rights to the Kings from KFB K. and so, um, you know, Gary, Gerald already came over to do the games and grant then came over from, I think another sports station in town. May had been K SAC at the time, and Tim Roy came over. And so Jack Youngblood was already there.
[00:20:56] And. Um, and then my Grammy, my boss at the time said, we're going to need a reporter in the King's locker room. Oh yeah. You know, now, now we're talking. Now I get to do that. So my very first year I was bored hopping and kind of was the King's locker room reporter. And I said, all right, this is, this is pretty cool.
[00:21:12] Yeah. So just starting. But that was how it started and it didn't even intern. It just kind of, I was very, very fortunate. And the way these careers go, people bounce all over the place. I've stayed in one spot for 25
[00:21:24] Jerry Reynolds: [00:21:24] years. It's really remarkable. I mean, it's, you know, I mean, probably both of us can attest to that.
[00:21:29] I mean, it's rare. Normal. No, it isn't normal by any standards where you get to stay any length of time. Of course. I think a lot of it is, I mean, you're so versatile. We talked about that before. I mean, you can do every sport you, you've been on. Pretty much every format of sports talk. And I mean, I think that that is a real talent, you know?
[00:21:50] I mean, whether it's fitting in or having your own show, I mean, you, you can do it any way there is.
[00:21:57] Jason Ross: [00:21:57] Yeah. And it almost, maybe it goes back to sports a little bit where I don't know that I'm perceived as the star at the station. And that's fine. I don't, I don't care. I can work with anybody. I have worked with everybody and, um, maybe that's helped in longevity.
[00:22:10] Jerry Reynolds: [00:22:10] I'm sure it has. I mean, I. I mean, I've never heard anybody say a bad word about you.
[00:22:15] Jason Ross: [00:22:15] Let me know. Well, yeah. Well, I'm going to find out, you know, I don't know what I'll do. I just want to
[00:22:20] Jerry Reynolds: [00:22:20] find them. Well, we will.
[00:22:21] Jason Ross: [00:22:21] They're out there. Okay. They're out there. I know you'll
[00:22:24] Jerry Reynolds: [00:22:24] find them, but yes. Yeah, no, I was going to say that.
[00:22:27] And I don't think anybody on earth is not offended. Somebody, I know. Last time I checked, even Jesus had a, somebody turned on him. So, yeah, so there you are. Be careful there. Careful there, but
[00:22:39] Jason Ross: [00:22:39] he wasn't in the social media age
[00:22:41] Jerry Reynolds: [00:22:41] and no boy, and that is the truth. Yes. You know what I mean? With are you on Twitter and all that?
[00:22:46] Jason Ross: [00:22:46] am. Everybody's still waiting for you that, and they'll keep waiting. They'll keep waiting. Yeah. It's a dangerous place. It's a dangerous place. I like the information you find and there's some really clever, funny things, but there's a lot of venom and just unnecessary. Stuff that you just didn't ask for solicit.
[00:23:07] Jerry Reynolds: [00:23:07] I just, you know, just from reading, just basically
[00:23:10] Jason Ross: [00:23:10] it's the same
[00:23:10] Jerry Reynolds: [00:23:10] internet journal. Just write stories about anybody and then if they allow comments, you know, I
[00:23:15] Jason Ross: [00:23:15] was your same. It's the
[00:23:16] Jerry Reynolds: [00:23:16] same idea where the, you know, the B, I know at least makes people identify themselves, which is cut down. Yeah, a lot of them, but not, but certainly, I mean, people, some people are, they, you know, dislike things so strongly, they able to identify themselves and be proud of it.
[00:23:33] Right. You know, maybe rightly so. But yeah, I'm a, I've always been a little scared. I've just seen so many people just run themselves, right. With a, you know, without thinking, react to something, you know, and it's, uh, it's easy to do. I think.
[00:23:47] Jason Ross: [00:23:47] Yeah, I mean, to get caught up in it. I try, I mean, I try to use it for information because it's the fastest, you know, the Kings make this trade.
[00:23:54] Wow, it's here, it's here in seconds, and then boom, it spreads like wildfire. That's good information. Um, and like I said, there's a clever, you know, they could switch our heads in this picture or do some fun things like, okay, that's pretty funny. But. Other than that, it's just, it's more for information for me.
[00:24:10] Jerry Reynolds: [00:24:10] Yeah. No, I mean, just seeing, you know, people that are on air personalities and all, you know, what, you know, the political correctness and social justice warriors can do to people that they say one little thing that they're offended by, and careers can be lost or certainly damaged. And, and you know, when maybe almost no intent, it just a slip of the tongue or, yeah.
[00:24:34] You know, I think, which people are. I know if I were probably taped all day long, you know, I always say though, it's like those shows, you know where they'll have, they'll follow somebody around all day. And I, and I used to get that with the Kings where they'd say, well, we want, we want a, so I have a deal where some.
[00:24:55] You know, kid intern from a high school, they want to follow you around all day. And I said, no, no. Listen, you want to watch me take naps? Uh, no I don't. I mean, I can't think of anything worse really
[00:25:06] Jason Ross: [00:25:06] in the life of Gerry. You don't want them following you. Oh, I don't
[00:25:09] Jerry Reynolds: [00:25:09] know. The life of Jerry is one of the. The good things is the life of Jerry's a very, it's your life is my life.
[00:25:16] And uh, but,
[00:25:17] Jason Ross: [00:25:17] but others thrive on that. Like, let me tell you about my life. Let me show you all this stuff. And some of it is that, is that really every day? Are you putting that on for show?
[00:25:24] Jerry Reynolds: [00:25:24] Yeah. Yeah. I, and I mean, there are people I know that love to entertain, love people. You know. Uh, around all the time, you know, a lot of athletes can't, you know, they're of course, just one of the reasons they go bankrupt sometime.
[00:25:38] Uh, trying to support everybody. But, uh, yeah, no, I not, not me and Mrs. Reynolds, where didn't work. We're definitely privacy. Enjoy our privacy. Yep. Yep. That's good. So, so we can argue in
[00:25:50] Jason Ross: [00:25:50] private. That's
[00:25:51] Jerry Reynolds: [00:25:51] right. Important. Yes. You know, so, so anyway, now. Oh, when did you get married?
[00:25:58] Jason Ross: [00:25:58] Um. Let's see. That would've been, I'm trying to timeline it to get it right.
[00:26:03] No, I know. When I was trying to think of after I had started a cage Skype in there for a while, and that's actually where I met. My wife was at the radio station. Um, yeah, we got married in 2001, so I had been at the station about seven years.
[00:26:16] Jerry Reynolds: [00:26:16] So was it love at first sight
[00:26:17] Jason Ross: [00:26:17] or, um. No, it just developed, which was good.
[00:26:21] We had done back to sports. We are on the company coed softball team together. Yeah. And then, you know, doing the, we had a special work project. She was in the sales element as an account executive and was representing kind of that group on the sales end. I was doing the kind of behind the scenes, cutting up all the station audio.
[00:26:39] She knew what they wanted from the sales end. I had the audio, so we had a project that. There's a couple of account executives and I and her that worked together and then, yeah, softball team. And then it was just more and more, and then, yeah, it just kind of started as a friendship and then grew as a partnership in the marriage.
[00:26:56] Jerry Reynolds: [00:26:56] Yeah. And, and you more or less still get along. I get
[00:26:59] Jason Ross: [00:26:59] along great with her. I don't know how she feels about me now. She does.
[00:27:04] Jerry Reynolds: [00:27:04] No. Yes. I can't even kid about that.
[00:27:06] Jason Ross: [00:27:06] Well, no, you can't because our wives not with our knowing, have seen each other at the mall and then like, Oh my wife, I'll be gone about 20 minutes, and then she came back four hours later.
[00:27:17] You'll never guess who I ran into and I said, you were talking the whole time.
[00:27:22] Jerry Reynolds: [00:27:22] No, no. She couldn't have been, she had to, she was listening for at least three out of the four hours. I can take her. She ran into my wife. Right.
[00:27:29] Jason Ross: [00:27:29] I don't, they, I, they made these talked at the same time. Yeah. I don't know what happened, but
[00:27:33] Jerry Reynolds: [00:27:33] there's a good chance they were just talking over each other.
[00:27:35] That could have been that. It
[00:27:36] Jason Ross: [00:27:36] was not, and that's not an over, it was at least three to four hours
[00:27:39] Jerry Reynolds: [00:27:39] and I went, I've seen them together from a distance and it's a, it's a, as
[00:27:42] Jason Ross: [00:27:42] I go, boy.
[00:27:43] Jerry Reynolds: [00:27:43] It's a
[00:27:44] Jason Ross: [00:27:44] cherry. Let's go to a movie.
[00:27:45] Jerry Reynolds: [00:27:45] Yeah. It's a miraculous thing, you know, they're just, you know, and they're just as,
[00:27:49] Jason Ross: [00:27:49] they're talkers, they're talkers.
[00:27:51] But what
[00:27:51] Jerry Reynolds: [00:27:51] can you say?
[00:27:52] Jason Ross: [00:27:52] So you're a good listener, huh? You're a good
[00:27:53] Jerry Reynolds: [00:27:53] listener. Not really. Ah, but that's, no, that is, that is one of the things that the advantage of a man cave, if the door closed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, so we've gotten there. There you go.
[00:28:07] Jason Ross: [00:28:07] But you're still married and we're still married.
[00:28:08] Jerry Reynolds: [00:28:08] Couldn't, wouldn't do it any differently, I have to say though. Yeah. I mean, the thing, the wonderful thing about being married is, is as you know, and all married couples, especially husbands, knows it, that it allows you to learn a lot of flaws you didn't know you had.
[00:28:25] Jason Ross: [00:28:25] And so the list is long.
[00:28:27] Jerry Reynolds: [00:28:27] The list is long and seemed like getting longer.
[00:28:29] But yeah, it, uh. You know, working on them.
[00:28:32] Jason Ross: [00:28:32] Yeah, absolutely. Day by
[00:28:33] Jerry Reynolds: [00:28:33] day. Day by day. Yeah. So, so now, okay, now you're 1140. Uh, and do you start, were you doing Kings at that time doing some King's work?
[00:28:45] Jason Ross: [00:28:45] Pretty much from, from the beginning. I'm in the locker room, kind of turned into a King slash cage. DK position.
[00:28:51] So it was the King's post game show. Um. But I was kind of a King's employee at the time, so pretty much since 94 as well at both places. And then more things started to develop on, on each side. So, you know, maybe a weekend show became available, did a weekend show years ago of the Kings need a little bit more work somewhere here or show up at this appearance.
[00:29:11] He used to have a weekly King's talk show, and you know, I was maybe third on the depth chart, but two guys were out, Oh, you're filling in this week. And this is a story I remember about you. I remember I was still in Davis, but I was working at KGK, so it would've been about 96 I can remember this very well.
[00:29:26] And I called you to get just some information. I'm hosting King's talk I think for the first time, and I had a dry erase board right by our phone, and you were so gracious with T just give me all sorts of insight and I'm writing all these notes on my dry erase board. And I think the way it ended was I was just floored that you gave me what seemed to be all this insight and from, I mean, it wasn't like.
[00:29:46] Top secret, but just really good stuff that I could use for the show. And I said, Jerry, you know, thank you so much for your time. I can't believe you told me all this. And I think you said something along the lines like, well, you didn't get it from me. And if you say you did, who are they going to believe me or you?
[00:29:59] And I thought, well, that is great. That is a great answer. And I mean, I've never. Well, I guess I'm ratting you out now, but if someone has a problem with that show in 96
[00:30:08] Jerry Reynolds: [00:30:08] you have a problem with the 96 show,
[00:30:10] Jason Ross: [00:30:10] then it's me. But it was it. So that was an opportunity that I had. So it's like, Oh, well here's a chance, a two hour King's talk show, you know?
[00:30:16] And for you individually, it's such a big deal. And I don't know how many people were even listening, but you gave me great information on where I looked
[00:30:23] Jerry Reynolds: [00:30:23] at it. What does, I mean, we were on the same team. Yeah, I mean, obviously a. Oh, I'm working for the King. So I'm a Homer and I
[00:30:32] Jason Ross: [00:30:32] want them to win. And yeah,
[00:30:35] Jerry Reynolds: [00:30:35] Paul dies for that, you know?
[00:30:36] And, but, uh, and then, and now of course, when was the first time you started? Uh, filling in for Gary. Gerald, cause I knew, you know, he used to do a lot of races and that opened up. Quite a quite a large segment of games. Yes. You were doing for years.
[00:30:50] Jason Ross: [00:30:50] Yeah. So, um, had an opportunity to do some monarchs games when COEs and Christa were doing the games and CO's would do TV.
[00:30:56] So there was a little bit of a window to do some radio games, maybe a handful a year. So at least I think I'd shown some of the people in the King's organization like, Hey. Just whenever the time comes. If there's ever a game, I'd love to love to fill in. And at that point, you know, Grant's doing TV, uh, with you, uh,G mans doing radio and CO's was the primary backup and I can't remember what happened.
[00:31:19] I think he broke his foot. There was something where he literally was injured and the Kings were opening the season in. Dallas and San Antonio, and maybe it was flip flop either way. Um, but Texas and I got a call from Craig Amazon, our old boss then, and he said, well, I like making these phone calls, but I got some news for you.
[00:31:40] I said, okay. He goes, gee, man's missing because of racing and CO's. His injury is going to keep him from going in, and then my heart's racing out. I think I know the next thing he's going to ask me and said, would you be willing to do. The King's game on the radio, and I mean, that's as fast as, yes, you could possibly say, I was so excited.
[00:31:58] Now what was unique about that trip. That's when house party was a show and they were going to have grant do it, which just because of CO's, his injury there, I think Katie and fat were on the road. So it was going to be done. And unfortunately, the morning of the game, Grant's father passed. Oh yeah. And so Craig then calls me and says, you know, I have to throw another thing on your plate.
[00:32:21] You're hosting house party tonight too. In a moment. Yes, the answer is yes, you just have to do it. And so here I'm kind of making my debut on that show. I'm calling the Kings game that I'm really want to put all my energy into and. You just got to do it, and I think I did a good job, and you just get the opportunity.
[00:32:39] I got some good reviews on the TV part. That's not even what I was most excited about, but that was different and then got a chance to fill in and then short, there was a little window after that where CO's was no longer a King's employee. And then Gary was doing racing and I was getting 10 to 12 games a year.
[00:32:54] Absolutely. Loving it.
[00:32:54] Jerry Reynolds: [00:32:54] Yeah. Well, I was going to say, I mean, really, I think, and I've told people, I mean, I'm not trying to, you know, you know, strokey I mean, you don't need that, but, but, uh, I think if, if, if grant wherever to take another job or do it. You'd be great in that role. And I think with Gary Sheldon, Gary knows that if Gary finds it the time when he doesn't want to do it or can't do it, that you'd be perfect in that role.
[00:33:19] I mean, you've proven that. Yeah, I know. And I mean, and I think you w you would be great. And, uh, well, that's
[00:33:25] Jason Ross: [00:33:25] created a little bit of a, not, not an issue because I'm more than happy and content. Love Sacramento. Love it here. Like the thought of like, do I need to go somewhere else? Do I, I don't want to, but I would like to do some of those things.
[00:33:38] And we been behind two guys that are great, and they've done it for what, 35 and 32 years. And they deserve to keep doing it as long as they want to,
[00:33:47] Jerry Reynolds: [00:33:47] as you know what? Gee, man, I mean, I don't think, here's a more. Professional. He's incredible. I mean, the amount of preparation. I know I was set behind him in the, on the plane plane on the charter, and, and of course I'd be getting some snacks to eat and relax.
[00:34:02] And while he's, he's working, he's working, you know, I mean,
[00:34:05] Jason Ross: [00:34:05] he's amazing. He's
[00:34:06] Jerry Reynolds: [00:34:06] amazing. I mean, you know, people always ask me, is it, is Gary as nice a person and you know, in real life is as these acid. Actually nicer. Really. If anything. It's true. She's actually nicer.
[00:34:16] Jason Ross: [00:34:16] Yeah. As I'll have family or friends that you know are brooding for me and some sentence like, when, when, when's he going to be done?
[00:34:22] When are you going to get in there? And I'm like, well, you know what? I love G man, like he is honestly great. He's a great human being. He's great to work with. Yep. He should go as long as he wants.
[00:34:31] Jerry Reynolds: [00:34:31] That's why I say, you know, I mean, I think, you know, I guess being a, an old fart myself, you know, I mean, I certainly went as long.
[00:34:39] Yeah. But you chose that. I chose that and I'm very appreciative how the King's allowed me and I still involved in it. A little different. Yeah. Much lesser level, which is work. Yeah. You know, and I mean, I think that's a, what G man?
[00:34:51] Jason Ross: [00:34:51] I think he loves the travel. Like you get tired of that, but he loves
[00:34:54] Jerry Reynolds: [00:34:54] it.
[00:34:54] Yeah. Hey, good for him. I think too, with GM, man, the thing that helped, you know, he got out of racing. Yeah. And you know, and I think it just, that really relieved his schedule so much. I don't know how he did that. I don't either. Yeah. I always said, you know, for me, had, you know, had the monarchs really not went away.
[00:35:13] I'm not sure how much, how I could have, because it was just wearing me down. It was all year. It was all, it was year round. And that was, uh, but, uh. You know? Anyway, so, but so that gave me a few more years, but a little bit of energy and things like that. Now. Now I know you do. Uh, you know, you do podcasts for the Kings as well as I think SAC state football and that, right.
[00:35:35] And then, uh, uh, you do sec state basketball.
[00:35:39] Jason Ross: [00:35:39] I did for a while I was, I was more of an analyst, which was fine, but I mean. To me that's more of a coach or a former player role. I could have done it. And then I would only do home games and they would get to be so many conflicts with the Kings where I was showing up at three or four games a year.
[00:35:54] And I thought, that's, I don't think that's fair to the audience. Um, so I just, I stopped. I'll go as a fan. Yeah, of, yeah. No, I just don't
[00:36:02] Jerry Reynolds: [00:36:02] really, uh, really enjoy a coach. Katz. I think he does a great job and, you know, it's really tough circumstances, but does a great job. And of course, Jimmy lasted Davis, I think is terrific.
[00:36:11] And one of my all time favorites. But, you know, it's, you know, it's, it's a shame that, uh, the both of those programs don't get a little better support. You know, I'm always a little bit surprised by that. I mean, facilities to some degree maybe
[00:36:26] Jason Ross: [00:36:26] for SAC staff
[00:36:27] Jerry Reynolds: [00:36:27] for sure. They. You know, the professional aspect and, and I think we've seen that always said just about anywhere where you get an NBA team, it does affect the college game a little bit.
[00:36:39] UCLA would probably be a pretty good example. Yeah. That you're, you're, you're
[00:36:43] Jason Ross: [00:36:43] adopted. Love. Yeah.
[00:36:44] Jerry Reynolds: [00:36:44] Yeah,
[00:36:46] Jason Ross: [00:36:46] yeah. No, that's true. Because I think as a. Culture. I don't know how else to say it, but we are always infatuated with the top. So what's the best, the best is the NBA. Um, even the NBA talking about like these tournaments.
[00:36:59] Interesting concept. Interesting idea. I care about the championship.
[00:37:02] Jerry Reynolds: [00:37:02] Oh yeah, yeah. Interesting thought. Yeah. To me it just, I don't care about it. And mid season, what does that mean?
[00:37:09] Jason Ross: [00:37:09] Yeah. Someone wins a golf tournament. Great. You win a major that's different. You know, Hey, you won. Bronze metal, good for you.
[00:37:15] But we care when, I mean the gold. Yeah. Or the heavyweight, whatever, whatever. Our ceiling where we've launched the peak, that's what we all kind of now you could appreciate high school sports and other things for what they are. Sure. But
[00:37:27] Jerry Reynolds: [00:37:27] yeah, and, and being really good at any levels, being really good at any level.
[00:37:31] And you want to appreciate that. And I do think we've. As a society, we've gotten too enthralled with, if you don't win a ring, you're nothing. Right.
[00:37:40] Jason Ross: [00:37:40] Really?
[00:37:41] Jerry Reynolds: [00:37:41] Right. Yeah. How's that? So, you know, what does that mean, Karl Malone and John Stockton really winning good, or are chemo Elijah on one two. But if Jordan don't play baseball.
[00:37:52] Right. For two years. He don't win too, right?
[00:37:54] Jason Ross: [00:37:54] Yeah. And then it doesn't go the same way for someone who's won a bunch, but it's not the star they is. Yeah. Robert , Robert Henri
[00:38:01] Jerry Reynolds: [00:38:01] were two good examples of being at the right place at the right time. Very good player's careers. The truth is, if they played Steve, if he played his entire career to the Cleveland Cavaliers at that time, he would have
[00:38:14] Jason Ross: [00:38:14] Eli Manning versus Dan Marino.
[00:38:15] Everybody's picking Dan Marino. Dan Marino never won a Superbowl. Good for Eli to win too. Yes. Great career. Dan Marino, Stan Murray, back by far.
[00:38:22] Jerry Reynolds: [00:38:22] You know, you watch about 15 minutes, right? Oh yeah. That,
[00:38:25] Jason Ross: [00:38:25] yeah. I think Eli would say it
[00:38:26] Jerry Reynolds: [00:38:26] and Eli, he should. He should. Yeah, I think he would. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Well, I mean, too, that's one of those things.
[00:38:34] Uh, you know, with today's game, it's so different. Uh, things I, I don't like, I don't know, you know, the load management stuff, it just really bugs me. I know I'm an old curmudgeon and, and you don't have to get off my lawn, but, uh, but I think about it, but I mean, you know. I just go back to where, and I still think most of the key players in, in the, in the game today want to play every game they can.
[00:38:57] You know, you hear James harden for whatever you think of James harden, you know, everybody don't like his style, but he's great and he wants to play every game.
[00:39:05] Jason Ross: [00:39:05] Yeah. And also the Abrazo Westbrook
[00:39:07] Jerry Reynolds: [00:39:07] and LeBron James, who's. Pretty good player and uh, you know, a dead, a Kupo if he, I mean, those guys, they want to try it out there every night, just like the guys in the 60s in the seventies and eighties.
[00:39:19] So, so to me it's like a slowed management is a disgrace really.
[00:39:24] Jason Ross: [00:39:24] And if science can prove it, then I changed my mind, but I think that's where some of it is originating from. Then. Darren Fox from year one should've sat games. I mean, if that's really a factor, Logan played 65 a year or whatever young players coming in or the old thing
[00:39:41] Jerry Reynolds: [00:39:41] that you hear, uh, well he can play.
[00:39:43] He's been cleared to play 25 minutes. Okay. Now. Exactly. Explain to me why it's 25 and not 27 right? Well, 20 at 28 will his legs fall off, you think? Yeah. That's dr bullcrap.
[00:39:58] Jason Ross: [00:39:58] Right way. I'm with you. You know, come on.
[00:40:00] Jerry Reynolds: [00:40:00] Yeah. I mean, it's like they don't know. Right. I always, always remember years ago. Uh, coaching and having doctors, NBA doctors, saying that Ralph Sampsons had arthritic knees, which are no question.
[00:40:15] And so did Kenny Smith. And they said, well, uh, you know, Kenny won't last very long. And this was when he's with the Kings, with the King kind of rookie. He's got arthritic knees. So 12 years later, those arthritic knees gave way, I guess. And I, I told a doctor, one of our local doctors, I said, now explain to me.
[00:40:32] Why Kenny's arthritic knees go real fast. It's arthritic knees and can barely. Right. You know? I mean, it's like, yeah, they couldn't, sorry. Anyway,
[00:40:44] Jason Ross: [00:40:44] yeah, I'm with you on that.
[00:40:45] Jerry Reynolds: [00:40:45] Yeah. I mean, it's like, Hey, if they're, if they're cleared to play, they're cleared to play.
[00:40:48] Jason Ross: [00:40:48] Yeah. And if not, then yeah. Shut him down.
[00:40:50] Jerry Reynolds: [00:40:50] And, you know, and, and when, when a guy like, will Chamberlain could play more than 48 minutes a game because of overtime and never missed a minute for a season.
[00:41:00] Yeah. It's possible.
[00:41:01] Jason Ross: [00:41:01] It's possible or training better care of these guys. I
[00:41:04] Jerry Reynolds: [00:41:04] mean, the nutrition, the travel, less back to backs, less back to back. It's all better. And uh, you know, I, I get that they want to, probably, their product would be better with fewer games, but if nobody's willing to give up money right then don't talk.
[00:41:19] Jason Ross: [00:41:19] Not happening. And we'll talk about it.
[00:41:21] Jerry Reynolds: [00:41:21] Right. And, and if you don't want to play it, he too, don't sign an 82 game contracts. I hope. I'm available for
[00:41:27] Jason Ross: [00:41:27] fifth, right? Yeah. But take less money. Oh, no, I'll play. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[00:41:31] Jerry Reynolds: [00:41:31] You, that's that. So, uh, so, uh, trying to think of some other question to put you on the spot, but now, uh.
[00:41:40] Have, I mean, if the right the right opportunity came, I mean for you to leave and do what you, you would have to accept that. I'm sure. You know, they do get a full time gig covering a major team.
[00:41:55] Jason Ross: [00:41:55] I, I, it would really be difficult. I remember, I don't know how many years ago this was now Jerry, but the Cleveland Cavaliers job was open and I applied.
[00:42:02] I said, well, I have to, it's one of 30 MBA play better jobs. And I remember telling my wife. I don't want it like w it never got that far. But what if I'm in the interview process and I'm one of the final candidates? I don't think I can say no, but I don't want to move to Cleveland. And you know, it's not only that, it's, you know, I've got a lot of things.
[00:42:21] The, the radio show or the radio station, that's tax date of friends, family, all the, all the stuff too. But Kings could, if I went to another place, it's probably just the one. Position, which would be great. I've built up a lot of things here too, so, um, I'm more than happy here with King's organization, but the radio station was SAC state.
[00:42:40] Just I've been treated really well.
[00:42:41] Jerry Reynolds: [00:42:41] Well, I think too, I think a lot of times, a lot of people, young people, don't really understand that. Like you say that. Okay, just for a little more money doesn't really change your lifestyle or make you happier. Yeah. You know, and I, I know my wife and I went through that a few times, like, well, we could make you a lot more money by going here and doing this or that.
[00:43:00] And it's like, well, you know, how's that going to be better for,
[00:43:06] Jason Ross: [00:43:06] you know, someone we both knew very well. You better than probably even than I did, but Scotty Sterling and he did absolutely everything in the world. Just the most fascinating career. He told me a story. About, I think he was either with the Knicks or the Jew, but he left them to go chase money.
[00:43:23] I want to say it was with the rodeo or the bull ride, some sort of, something along those lines. And he didn't like it, and he said, you know, I chased that, never take a job just for the money. I'm like, yeah, that's the reason. Then you're doing it for the wrong reason and I'm going to, he's not the first person to ever say that, but I think it just made a lot of sense.
[00:43:39] And he gave me a living example, and I'm like, all the things he had done with the Raiders and as a writer and fantasy football is his career. It's amazing. Baseball scout, NBA scout. Just had done everything. And here he was chief for Al Davis
[00:43:52] Jerry Reynolds: [00:43:52] back in the day, the New York Knicks. I got to know him first as New York Knicks, general manager, and when I first came to league.
[00:43:59] But yeah, Scotty, that was just a, his careers one for the agents
[00:44:03] Jason Ross: [00:44:03] really did everything. Everything.
[00:44:05] Jerry Reynolds: [00:44:05] Yeah. And I like to say, so he chased money kind of mentor to me, you know, I mean, just kinda, I mean, it's one of those things that he knew, everybody knew everything. And I, I think probably he and. Pete Corel are probably two guys that, you know, on the NBA level that, you know, you listened to cause you, you knew, they knew.
[00:44:22] Jason Ross: [00:44:22] Yeah. You should listen to them. Yeah.
[00:44:25] Jerry Reynolds: [00:44:25] There's a lot of people you
[00:44:26] Jason Ross: [00:44:26] shouldn't lose, but those two would be on the
[00:44:28] Jerry Reynolds: [00:44:28] list. I think that's a key to, you know, is identifying those that, uh, that, that, uh, you probably shouldn't listen to as well. That's important. But yeah, you're right. I mean, with Scotty, I mean, he was, he was remarkable legend.
[00:44:40] Just really miss him. And, uh, well, I don't know. Uh. I think we're kind of getting close to the end here, but a couple of question I would really want to know. Uh, is there any advice that you would give to kind of others, uh, young people that. You know, in your circumstance and maybe even yourself looking back, uh, what, what advice could you give to those peoples as we kind of,
[00:45:04] Jason Ross: [00:45:04] um, it, hopefully it would fit to any career, but if this is a path you want to go into media and broadcasting, whatever element that means to you behind the scenes in front of the mic, in front of a camera, behind the camera is to say yes to everything.
[00:45:18] I mean to every opportunity. You don't know where that's going to lead, and so it might be something that you haven't done. Someone asks you to do. I don't know if someone came up to me and say, Hey, can you announce the rodeo at the arena? Yes. And I've never done it. I'd watched some video. I'd figure out the vernacular.
[00:45:35] I mean, say where's that going to lead? Maybe it was one time and maybe it leads. Maybe I'm become the longtime voice of the rodeo associate. I don't know. You just, I think you have to say yes and then you have to be willing to work and do the hours. There's so many perks, but you might work on Christmas.
[00:45:52] You might work on new years. You might not work for three weeks. You might work for 45 days in a row. Um. But you're seeing the best athletes are meeting some great people. Um, it's, it's honestly a wonderful, and I'm still waiting on third base for the Yankees, Jerry.
[00:46:07] Jerry Reynolds: [00:46:07] Well, they can be there.
[00:46:09] Jason Ross: [00:46:09] Maybe this might be, you know, they spent all that money on pitching and maybe I could just help out.
[00:46:12] Jerry Reynolds: [00:46:12] You realize, uh, you know, as a young person, there's no way when you were 16, 17 years old, you could. Picture yourself where you are today and the things you've accomplished and all that. I mean, I always tell young people, it's like, they'll say, well, you know, how did I get to be a NBA coach or, or general manager or
[00:46:32] Jason Ross: [00:46:32] when
[00:46:33] Jerry Reynolds: [00:46:33] they want it to be analyst.
[00:46:34] And I say, I don't know. Right. It wasn't ever a goal of mine. Yeah. But it's a little bit like just what you said, be ready
[00:46:41] Jason Ross: [00:46:41] to. Okay. Yeah.
[00:46:42] Jerry Reynolds: [00:46:42] Prepare yourself
[00:46:43] Jason Ross: [00:46:43] to be ready. And then when call
[00:46:45] Jerry Reynolds: [00:46:45] Nana, you get to go then, then go
[00:46:47] Jason Ross: [00:46:47] say, sure, yeah. Cause if you want to be a doctor or I wanted to be a vet, well, have to go to vet school.
[00:46:51] I mean, there was, there's a logic, a path residency, internship, get hired on your Yvette. I mean, you have to be qualified. Well,
[00:46:58] Jerry Reynolds: [00:46:58] yeah,
[00:46:59] Jason Ross: [00:46:59] broadcaster, there's no point, you know,
[00:47:03] Jerry Reynolds: [00:47:03] but you're in your case. So, I mean, I always say like with grant and people like yourself. I mean, you're really are trained. True. Now, I always say like with a color analyst.
[00:47:12] Oh, pretty much. Yeah. Unless you're a former player or coach or something, it's not gonna happen. Now, if you want to be the play play, you better get some communications broadcasting experience and then be ready to prove yourself at every level. And as opposed to, well, yeah, I'm ready to take grant Napier's job shirts and Ross's job, or.
[00:47:31] Gary, Joe. Well, no, you're not.
[00:47:33] Jason Ross: [00:47:33] You've got to work at it. You gotta
[00:47:34] Jerry Reynolds: [00:47:34] Work at it and it's, it's a long time process.
[00:47:37] Jason Ross: [00:47:37] Yeah. Make your mistakes. I think even back to college, I'm working campus radio. I took on a local community, public access, sports TV show. I kind of created it and it was terrible, but I learned.
[00:47:47] Okay. Now I saw a couple shows, all the playback. I'm like, all right, we need, this needs to be done differently. And not that I figured it all out, but I mean, I was really young and raw and it's like I'd seen some sports television and let's try this. And again, it was just a little Davis public access show that was bad, but I made my mistakes and okay, how can I get better?
[00:48:05] And it was still improving. I mean, today I'm better than before, but hopefully I'll be better in the future. And you just keep working
[00:48:11] Jerry Reynolds: [00:48:11] at it and you really can't know exactly what's going on. Workout or not. I always remember kind of the monarchs thing. I really didn't want to do it, but you said yes, but the owner explained it to me in a way that I did understand and I did do it.
[00:48:25] And it's a great experience, you know? I mean, it's, it's great. I wouldn't have had, yeah, just loved it, loved the monarchs, just enjoyed it. So great advice. And I think that hopefully, uh, young people out there in the world, uh, take more advice from people like Jason Ross, and you'd be better off and just really want to.
[00:48:43] Tell you how much we appreciate you coming in. And this was fun. Obviously even George, your career and I know there's all a lot of good years left, all the best years. I'm sure.
[00:48:52] Jason Ross: [00:48:52] Hey, I hope so. I hope so. Thank you Jerry. I really appreciate it and thank you for everything you've ever done for me and will continue cause I'll keep calling you and keep bothering you.
[00:48:59] Keep writing on my dry erase
[00:49:00] Jerry Reynolds: [00:49:00] board and I'll keep
[00:49:01] Jason Ross: [00:49:01] answering. Oh good. That's good. Thank you.
[00:49:03] Jerry Reynolds: [00:49:03] Well, thank you. And from McCreerys, the Jerry Reynolds show is officially over.
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