S01E08 - Doug Christie
15 year veteran of the NBA and color commentator for the Sacramento Kings
S01E08 - Doug Christie
Doug Christie sits down with Jerry and discusses his childhood, the biggest influences in his life that got him to the NBA, and how he was taught the fundamentals of the game.
Jerry Reynolds: And we've got a real special guest here today. I've just been looking forward to this hour for a long time. Uh, mr Doug Christie, one of the, uh, obviously, uh. Best players to ever play for the Sacramento Kings. And now obviously it's a TV voice for your Sacramento King.
So, uh, let's get right to it. And Doug, welcome.
Doug Christie: Very cute, Jerry, I appreciate, uh, the check is in the mail for all those time words.
Jerry Reynolds: Well, I know better than that cause cause you're, you're, you're not as cheap as me, but you're, you're probably in the same vicinity anyway. Okay. So, uh. You know, I, I really want to get into your background as much as anything.
I think a lot of our fans certainly know you as a player and have great memories of, of your outstanding career, which we'll get into. And then, and of course know you as a TV personality now to, to a lot of degree dies. But I go back, I want to go back to, of course, you were born in may of 1970 in Seattle and, uh, uh, that's your home.
Uh, I, I noticed, uh. You, you gave a lot of credit to an early coach. Uh, Dave Denny. Yeah. Can you tell me a little bit about, uh, that,
Doug Christie: you know, there was, there was a few coaches when I, when I was coming up, but Dave Denny. Introduced me to the fundamentals of the game of basketball. So my OD, my mother was white and we lived in the hood.
My dad was black and he lived in a all white, little, small town, so I was all
Jerry Reynolds: mixed up, messed up.
Doug Christie: Um, but so growing up, learning basketball. I just learned in the streets and on the playground. So I never had any fundamental teaching. It was just, you know, I kinda got by, so I go to Longview where my father lived.
It was about an hour and a half South towards Portland from Seattle. Um, and I enrolled in, um. Cascade junior high school, and then ultimately, um, Mark Morris high school. And Dave Denny was the head coach at Mark Morris high school. His son Jeff Denny, was my best friend at that time. And so I learned about jump stops and pivots and we used to do these drills.
We'd jump up and touch the back board and different things. So. When I went back, because unfortunately, Jerry, I got in a lot of trouble in both places, Seattle alone. But when I went back to live with my mother, uh, I found that. A lot of those fundamental principles made me Excel vastly superior to two guys who I was either less than when I left or equal to.
And I always think coach Denny for that because without that exposure, you know, ultimately I'm, you know, I would have maybe got it, but I think it really helped me in high school because I went from, when I left him, I couldn't make the varsity team. I went to Seattle, the number one team in the state beach
I didn't play as a G as a sophomore, but I made the team and as a junior and senior, I was the MVP of the state.
Jerry Reynolds: I know. Getting ready to that. And your team want to state it, right?
Doug Christie: Yeah, we were. Um, so when I got there, and this was the other guy, give a lot of credit to his mill Williams, and Mel was the first guy that ever told me.
I can make it to the MBA. Really? Yeah. We're having a real, you know about bad practices, Jerry. Right? So we're having a bad practice, and this is my junior year, so now I am, you know, I'm, I'm playing a little bit and you know, and myself, and we're having a bad practice, so he blows a whistle. Poop brings everybody in and he starts ripping us and he goes, there might be only one guy here that can make it to the NBA.
So, you know, immediately we're all looking around like, hell, what's he
Jerry Reynolds: gonna say?
Doug Christie: So, and he goes on for a second day, and he says, duck. And I just went, wow. You know, cause he spoke power to my dream and no one had ever did that in my mind. Tape delayed games as I watched magic and Larry and all these guys, imagine tape delay.
Right? Um, but in my mind, I wanted to go there, but I never thought that I would be able to get there. So from that point, you know, I really started, I tried to get out of trouble, you know, not as much trouble, tried to do the right things. And, um. We ultimately in 1988. One Rainer beach, first state title, and since then, I think we've won six a Jamal Crawford, Nate Robinson.
Now Kevin Porter, jr we, we, uh, we've got a factory there.
Jerry Reynolds: Yeah, you really do. It's really been at Venery Mark, while, yes. It's interesting. You know, you talked about the. The fundamentals and all, and I think sometimes, obviously fans don't think enough about that, but, but I mean it, it is one of those things, I think as a young player.
Okay. Now you started seeing the game differently as much as playing it differently. You had to see it differently,
Doug Christie: you know, in. fundamentals in, and I speak about this with, with our team now, and fans call the radio station and they're upset because they're thinking like, these guys get paid millions of dollars.
What do you mean they don't know how to play basketball? But ultimately, Jerry, I didn't really learn the game until I got to Sacramento. Imagine that though. I was. What, eight years into my career and coachee coach Pete Carril, he opened my eyes to a lot of different things. So when we talk about fundamentals, you know, you have innate ability.
You have really, you got quickness and speed and jumping out ability and athleticism and anticipation and different things. But without the fundamentals, you can't execute them. I don't. That's why you get guys, and they'll go to the park and you've seen him in the summertime and they'll score 40 points and you'd go, man, that guy should be in the NBA.
But you would be surprised because of if I exploit something that you can't do, and I put you in a bad situation and you can't make proper passes and timely passes and on time and on target passes. You ended up on the bench and no, ultimately out of league.
Jerry Reynolds: Yeah. You know, I've always said, and I think you've seen it up close, uh, in your careers for every player that makes it, there's two or three of equal talent that don't, and they just kind of, yes.
Because they really don't get, you know, kind of how they have to fit in, uh, what they need to do
Doug Christie: right. Jerry, I wasn't the best player in my neighborhood. And I mean, you know, I mean, there's the, as you say, there's three, four, or five, and there was a lot of players in my neighborhood that I was better than, I mean that I wasn't as good as when I went down and met Dave Denny and I got the fundamentals and I paired that with what I had.
I came back and I was like, Oh no. Okay, I'm better than you. I'm better needs it. That's what began to evolve. And then. Obviously, like when I talk about getting in trouble and stuff like that, at a certain point in my life, I wasn't willing to dedicate the time because I wanted to do different things. And a lot of, you know, some of my friends were into drugs and dealt drugs and got shot and different things like that.
Right. They weren't willing to sacrifice. And I was willing to, cause I had a dream and I wanted my dream to come true. And the only way to make that happen is, are you willing to sacrifice your life? And I was willing to do that. And here I am with you.
Jerry Reynolds: Yeah, pay off. But anyway, here you are. But you know, it's interesting too, you know.
Of course, I saw you play at Pepperdine and quite a few times cause obviously you're on everybody's radar and uh, really did really enjoyed watching you by the way. I did. I mean, got into Pepperdine.
Doug Christie: You enjoyed that more than yo Pepperdine.
Jerry Reynolds: Wow. I think the first time I saw you play was a at, at a con, I think you're a junior.
Maybe it was even more so. I don't know. At the level of Marymount during the conference tournament. Yes, yes. And, uh, you know, I, I, I'll always remember sitting with, uh, uh, Dennis Johnson, the great Lou, and we were just talking basketball and he, he was talking about how much he enjoyed watching you play.
And I said, well, yeah, I mad and you do that. I said, he's got a lot of your games. Yeah. And he said, yeah, he does. He, she, he said he does. He's probably a little more athletic than me. Well, I said, well, . I said, he may be, but I said, you, you know, I'm not sure he had more than when you came in the league. I mean, cause he was a, I mean, what a great player.
It'd be like yourself
Doug Christie: being from Seattle. He was one of my favorites because I grew up in, in 78 79 . They won the championship. Uh, I got to meet Dennis John's, I mean a dentist. I got to meet Gus Williams, who was the point guard garden and from USC, uh,
Jerry Reynolds: Dennis downtown tradie Brown, Jack Sigma, Mari J. O.
That was a hell of a team.
Doug Christie: It was, and I loved Dennis because. First of all, he was light skinned guy like myself. I didn't have freckles, but he could, he was athletic. He could do everything on the floor. So, um, I finally got to meet him, meet him one time at Pepperdine. He came there to do a, um, a commercial.
So I was, um. That must've been my right around my beginning of my senior year, I think. And we just got to talk for a few minutes and say hello. And I told him those types of stories and he was blown away cause he was like, really? You're from the, yeah, he was a man. Uh, rest in peace. He was a great, great
Jerry Reynolds: guy.
Really great player. Always you rationalize those trades. Uh, that Phoenix had him and traded him to Boston for Paul Westfall. Yup. And, and it really was a T a trade that made both teams better.
Doug Christie: Yes, it did.
Jerry Reynolds: You know, it gave Boston what they had to have to deal with. Andrew Toney and made him a champion,
Doug Christie: Boston strangler
Jerry Reynolds: lawsuits Wrangler.
And then Paul Westfall obviously could really became one of them. Probably top seven, eight, 10 players in the league for a number of years. There with is, Oh, man. Being able to be the main man, you know, in, uh, in Phoenix.
Doug Christie: I could talk basketball,
Jerry Reynolds: but I was going to say, yeah, it just, it was just, it really interesting to me, you know?
Uh, of course, I remember so well, you know, and you had the natural, you know, point and leadership skills at that time, you know, and I, it was one of those things that I know later on when you were. Well, I followed your career a little bit, but, but I mean, when you're in Toronto, especially, you know, I always kind of remember you.
Well, yeah, he was right. Comfortable. Yeah. Kind of running the show,
Doug Christie: you know? So coach Asbury, who was my coach at Pepperdine, and oddly enough, if a kid had to choose coach Asbury, probably wouldn't choose him because he was a disciplinary and he was in my face. But he was what I needed at the time. And. I can remember it like it was yesterday.
He, we used to do these drills called three lines. Do you know those were a John wooden and they were all the fundamentals run, jump, stop, pivot Java. Oh, just, I hated it, but I got a lot better. So one day he's, he's ripping me cause that's what he used to do. And I'll have to tell you that story because it was funny.
Jerry Reynolds: So
Doug Christie: he would, he would, he would rip me relentless lead. Jerry like. I mean, cussing me, just coming at me and I finally, I just said, Hey, coach, you know, can I come talk to you? And he said, Oh, because right afterwards, he'd be Duguay great job today. And I'm thinking, what the hell is going on, man? So he, uh, he calls me up to the office, I go up to the office, I meet him, and he's like, um, what you want buddy?
And I said, coach mean, what is all that man? Why? Why are you getting on me like that? And he said, close the door. I've been waiting for you to come up here and ask me this question. And I S so I looked at him and I, he goes, um, he said, you're the best player on the team. He said, if I do that to you, I don't have to say a word to these other freaking guys.
They fall right in line. And right from then. We fell into line. We didn't have any problems. He was a, he was absolutely the best coach. Coach Asbury was, well, he was one of those things that as a young player, uh, the, the path that I went, it just kind of worked out. He was, he was awesome for me at that particular time in my career.
Jerry Reynolds: I've always, you know, thought to it. That's one of those things there where he said about that. Uh, coach Popovich and Tim Dunkin. Yes. You know, and he said, Tim allows me to coach him. And obviously if you can get on. Tim Dunkin. Yep.
Doug Christie: Uh, no problems.
Jerry Reynolds: Yeah. Who, who else
Doug Christie: say you gonna say something? No,
Jerry Reynolds: I don't think so.
I mean, Jerry Sloan used to tell me that too about Carl Malone, John Stockton. He said, those are the two guys I get on. And he said, you know, cause what are the other guys gonna
Doug Christie: say they are going to, they are going to end it at
Jerry Reynolds: that Chile. But he said too, it's like, well they'll, they allow me to,
Doug Christie: yes. I mean, and that was the.
That was the vibe. I didn't understand it as a, as a young player, I'm thinking, what? What is this? Well, I mean, I, I'm better than all these. That's what I'm thinking in my head. I'm better now. These guys, why are you not? But that was a, that was a learning. So when you talk about being a leader. He, I was deleting score on the team and he called me into the office and he goes, uh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make you handle the basketball.
And I'm thinking, ah, we gotta we got a point car for that. That's what I was thinking. And he said, you want to make a lot of money in this game, don't you? And I was like, yeah, I'm with that. And he said, um. He said, if you notice now, there's tables here every game. And if you walk in front of those tables, you will see Jerry West and Mitch Kupchak, and you're going, they're here to see you.
Absolutely. And what you need to show them now is what I'm about to do for you. So the next couple of games, I only score like four points, but I had like 12 assists and 14 assists. And he said, see, these are things that. Other players on our team can't do and this is what they want to see out of you. So his, his pushing and prodding and making me uncomfortable really helped me to, to become a better individual, a better person and a better leader.
Yeah. I mean, he was great.
Jerry Reynolds: Yeah. I always remembered too, you know, of course, after the, uh, after your college career, you're a first round pick, uh, of the Seattle Sonics, which is your home. But I know what it didn't, did not go well. I don't, I don't know, you know, feel comfortable saying everything, but, but I mean, it was just one of those situations that, that, you know, from afar you'd say, well, that.
You know, that'd be the greatest thing for him, but, but it really wasn't, was it?
Doug Christie: Yeah. If you look at my face when I got drafted, I wasn't very happy. Um, and that was unfortunate because, you know, just prior to that, all those stories I'm telling you about the Sonics, I was a big Sonics fan. I grew up, and I love Seattle.
I mean, that was. Everything. And then all of a sudden,
Jerry Reynolds: Lenny Wilkens is still been coaching. I've been a little better.
Doug Christie: That might work. Let he let he let, he might've worked for me, no doubt about it. Uh, but it was George. Carl and I had a run in with George, and it was, it wasn't good. So then he. Called my house one time and told, you know, kinda cussed me a little bit and told me to get over here and work out.
And um, I hung up the phone and you know, I was young at the same time, but there are ways that you go about it. Even now that I've been around the front office, there's ways that you go about stuff and you handle it. And. Uh, so when I got drafted, I wasn't, I kind of knew it wasn't going to go good and it wasn't going to be right.
And I was villainized in the city and it, you know, for, for the guy and his name was, I remember, I remember him clearly, but a year before me at number 17, pick, his name was Victor Alexander out of Iowa state. Yep. He got $750,000 so that year that I got drafted was Shaq and all of us. Well, everyone got a 15% raise.
Sure. So I should have been right around a million bucks, or at least nothing less than seven 50. Well, they offered me like 320,000. Wow. Yeah. So there's a sense of been a, uh, uh. A little piece in the collective bargaining agreement. I believe that they weren't allowed to drive players if they knew that they didn't have the capital to be able to pay them.
And that was part of what happened to me. So it was, it was unfortunate, and really to be honest with you, Jerry, up until I got to maybe Toronto. But definitely Sacramento. I lost the love for basketball because it turned into a business because now all this, what is all this? I just want to play the game.
I love to play, and there was a lot of stuff and I didn't really like that.
Jerry Reynolds: Yeah. I was gonna say, I think, you know, I always remember when you were at the Lakers and yeah. Always remembering, I've told you that I had a conversations, at least talk to Jerry West a lot. Yeah. Just different things around the league, but, but always remember, you know, I was asking them, you know, how's this, how's Doug Christie?
You know, and I thought, and he jerks it. Doug Christie is going to be a really good NBA player. Once he decided to figures out the magic Johnson, right. And, and he said, he, you know, and he said, he said, he probably gonna need traded a couple of times to finally get it. And, you know, and of course, uh. That did happen.
I mean, you went to the Knicks and then were sent Toronto's where it really seemed to kick in for you.
Doug Christie: It did. And you know, Jerry lit into me in a summer league one time because it was just that, you know, I magic had just went through the HIV thing and left and you know, I'm thinking show time and this and you know, and, and as a young player, I didn't know, Oh, just trying to, trying to find my way.
So by the time I go. Oddly enough, as I look back on it, there was so many cues and different things that really helped me in my career. So I go from the Lakers and I go to the Knicks. First day that I get to the Knicks, they say, ah, Mr. Riley wants to see you in his office. So I walk. Again, and sit down and I'm waiting and the secretary comes and says, go in and I'll walk in and it's dark and, and wood.
He's like the godfather.
Jerry Reynolds: Yeah. Cause I can visualize. Right.
Doug Christie: And, uh, and to, to Pat, he, he says to me, you're not going to play. I got my guys, we just went through training camp. You're not going to play. Find something that you can do in this league. Well, and it'll keep you in this league for a long time. So through Pat Riley and those crazy practices, I learned professionalism.
And I found defense because I really, you know, I could play it, but you know, I was scoring, you know, I'm doing it. So then I went from that. To New York, and when I got, I mean, excuse me, from New York to Toronto, and Isaiah Thomas was the general manager. He pulls me aside very first day and he goes, look, Doug, you're going to play about 48 minutes.
Um, you know, at least 40. If you get in foul trouble, whatever. He said, don't look over at the bench. We don't have any solutions for you. You go out there and play. If you make a mistake, try not to do the same thing two times in a row. Figure it out. I know you got talent. I know you can play. Show me. And that was the first time anyone had ever kind of released the reins on me and let me kind of where,
Jerry Reynolds: you know, okay, now I get to play.
Doug Christie: Absolutely. And, uh, David's Stata, Meyer was in the back court with me and, uh, who was a rookie of the year that year, and Tracy Murray and wa Williams who was here, um. And I, I begin to, now I begin to, so I put the professionalism now, am I going to stay with it? And, and I did that. That was about the time I also got married and I really started solidify in my life and what are the things that I want to do.
And so by the time I got to Sacramento, everything began to kind of crystallize. Since then, you know, I, my, I can't remember when I got married, my wife was like, you know, cause she knew the story with George Karl and all that. Yeah. We were in Seattle one night and she goes, um, you know, you should just write him a letter, take the high road.
And like she said, say sorry. I'm like, sorry for what? That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. She said, this is not the point. The point is you release that, let it go, let it out of your life. And I, I did that and you know, George sent me a letter back and we kinda just let bygones be plowed on. Yeah. And I did the same thing.
I didn't need this. It wasn't in that way. But, uh, last year with Pat Riley in, in sense with Pat, I sent him a letter, I, and his was more appreciative. I just wanted to let him know. What he did for my career, because that type of professionalism that he makes you. Oh boy. You know, I, when I say, come in early, I'd get there about 8:00 AM and I didn't leave till about 8:00 PM but you know, you're putting in a full day of work, but you learn as a young player how to be a professional.
Jerry Reynolds: That's one thing I will say with path. I mean, I always remember us, we made a trade. When you're traded Walt Williams to Miami. Yes. Really Owens and Kevin Gamble and, and really made it really made the playoffs for us in 96 and I always remember those guys came in and you know, you'd thought they were in the military.
No doubt. I mean, everything, you know, at their lockers. And I know. So I talk to both of them and they said, when you, when you play for the Miami heat and Pat Riley, you, you work. And you do what you're told and, and all that. And, and I, I mean, uh,
Doug Christie: it was all
Jerry Reynolds: great examples of it.
Doug Christie: No doubt. It was, uh, you know, so I remember.
So when I came in, I had, uh, my, the end of my junior year in the WCC tournament, I fractured a tip of my femur and what I had, it was equated to microfracture surgery. So that was an apprehension on me in the draft. Why I dropped a 17 or I otherwise, I
Jerry Reynolds: probably. Yeah. You, you were, uh, I know early on were like a top seven, eight, nine,
Doug Christie: right up there towards the top.
Well, the apprehension was, I'd only play five years, but when I got to Pat Riley, I learned a work ethic that enabled me to stay around for 15 years. And it was because I, I, I changed my diet off. So when I got to Toronto, Toronto and Canada, very forward thinking in nutrition in different stuff. But.
Lifting weights, stretching, flexibility, all the different things. And I, I started to see how it helped me. And so I, I went all in, so when Billy Owens and those guys came, I can already imagine. I know they were like,
Jerry Reynolds: yeah, I mean, Billy was, was really good. I mean, he still couldn't really shoot, but he, he, and, and I mean, Walt probably Williams always said had probably had far more talents.
You're not worse off with guys if he had a really. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. We're talking
Doug Christie: about, but he didn't know he did like that, but
Jerry Reynolds: yeah, he was a great guy though, but he, good guy. Good guy. I drafted high socks. Yeah. I mean, and he, but he should have been an
Doug Christie: all star. No doubt. Six, eight. Handled the ball.
Shoot the ball. Strong.
Jerry Reynolds: Strong, strong. Yeah. Yeah. I had a little knee open court could make play
Doug Christie: a little wiggle storm. Yeah, yeah. Where's good play?
Jerry Reynolds: Yeah. But anyway, but I was always thinking to it, and I, going back to. Yeah. I was, uh, involved in the basketball operations at that time when you were at Toronto.
And I always remember Jeff Petri, we'd come off of, you know, a good year, uh, a couple of good years, I think, but, but, you know, we were kinda in there, made playoff two years in a row,
Doug Christie: but,
Jerry Reynolds: but, you know, kind of stagnated. I mean, and, and, and, you know, and I think sometimes fans don't understand, it's like. Well, they don't, you know, it's like, yeah, this is a good team, but if you want it better, you, you've got to make some changes.
Doug Christie: know, it just fortunate. But
Jerry Reynolds: yeah, you just can't wait for the draft to savior, whatever. And that takes forever. But, uh, but he said, you know what? Yeah. To the view. Watch just done Christy up in Toronto. And I said, yeah, I wasn't. He said, we'll start watching him a little more. He said, you know, he said, what?
You know, he said, I think, I think he'd be a good fit for us, you know, and, and so, so I remember just having that conversation and later on, you know, we were talking and I so he's saying what he had in mind. He said, you know. He said, I'd hate to do this, but he said, I think we could get Christie a for Corliss Williamson.
He said, what do you think of that? And I said, well, I love coreless. I said, but, but I, but I, but I understand. It's like, well, Paige has got to play.
Doug Christie: Yeah. At some point,
Jerry Reynolds: you know, he fits a longterm thing here. Better. So, and I said, and certainly. Doug and I, I said, my feeling was, uh, I said, he'll fit, Jay will perfect.
I said, yeah, if possible. Cause they wills do wills. And I said, because he doesn't make mistakes with the ball. And J Will's going to, yes. And, you know, we weren't thinking anything past J will at that time. Right. You know, and I said, just if, just, if there's a way of getting somebody to guard to help him, cause he's not going to defend right.
Help him. Didn't know that actually later bid become any, it'd be worse.
Doug Christie: But,
Jerry Reynolds: but I said, you know, it'd be a perfect fit, I think to settle. And, you know, he's hoping this could maybe help settle Jay will down cause he marvelous talent. Oh my God. And then paid you. So we, we can take a step forward. And of course it's true, you know, and I think two of the, uh, the thing I would say with a lot of times fans think about trades, you know, they're always thinking in terms of, well, let's, let's trade our two or three guys.
We don't think it's very good and get their really good guy. I said, no, don't work that way. You know, if you want a really good player, you're going to have to give up a really good player. And the Kings did. And of course it worked for coreless. You know, he being a six man of the year and got to play on a championship team and it worked for you and it worked for the Kings.
Doug Christie: Yes, that's certainly
Jerry Reynolds: working for the Kings. But what I always say that's, you know, that's kind of how it went. And like I say, it did seem to. You know, I mean, amazingly, I think you did have a good effect on, on Jay will, not that anybody could at that
Doug Christie: time.
Jerry Reynolds: As far as them. No, no. Right. That'd be like trying to, you know, I'll put a, yeah, I don't.
400 pound man on the third bed. Couldn't be
Doug Christie: that happening. No, it was Jay will was because earlier I said to you that I had lost a love for basketball. Well, it, it started coming back in Toronto, but when I got here. It was full fledge. I, I, I was so excited to go to the gym every day. I, I couldn't even tell you I, the first time we were in a preseason game that I can remember, it might not have been the very first, first time, but we were at Arco arena and J wheels driven the ball down the floor and he passes it to me.
And all at the same time. He says, shoot is shorty, and I was thinking, what did he just say? You know, like, we're having fun. You know what I mean? And so for, I loveJ will to this day because he gave me the love back. The, like the, there was a childishness about the way that he approached the game.
And that's, that's where I had came from. And, and I, and I went right back there, bang. But I also did it with the professionalism and all the different things. So to me, Sacramento, that's why like, you know, coming back here, I feel like. I have unfinished business. I, I want to see a championship here, like so bad.
I can't even, because we were, we're so close. So for me it was like basketball, Nirvana. It was like the greatest, like you're beating the hell out of people every night and you're having fun and you're doing it with people that you enjoy being around. Well, what I mean, and I'm getting paid. How about that
Jerry Reynolds: too, is one of the things I always remember.
I mean, honestly, Sarge, just selfishly, I enjoyed going to practice so much. Wow. I mean, and, and you know, cut off that. I don't really care about price anymore. I'm going to burn out on it. But, but I mean, it was just such a fun bunch to watch. It was, you know, you guys were so skilled and you have fun, you know, I mean.
Bloody or do you remember him? He'd be at every practice. I mean, he might
Doug Christie: talk, show, show,
Jerry Reynolds: right as it's starting and might show up in his pajamas and he'd be there, you know? And I mean, you know, and, and Jay will always say, would, would do something that, that you didn't think was possible to do
Doug Christie: every day?
Something good or bad,
Jerry Reynolds: good and bad. Both. Uh, you know, I always say that. Well, I, I worked a little bit volunteer wise with the Atlanta Hawks years ago when Pete Maravich was their college coach. And I had to go over and help, cause they had, those days, they had one assistant. So, you know, I knew cotton fits him as well.
And, and he had me come over and, and, uh, and I always said that was thing about Pete. He'd do something, you'd say, no, you can't do that. You know, that's not possible. You know what I mean? But J and J will was like, I'd only, he'd do it faster. Yes,
Doug Christie: no doubt. And I would just be like, Jay will and then do that again.
And he would be able to, you know what, as, as I watched the Kings today, and I've watched him since I've been back, and I hear people around the league talk, and as I train athletes and, and you and I have talked about coaching, and I have my, my own ideas about it. One of the greatest things that I saw because.
When people came to our games, in my opinion, now they came to a show, but we rehearsed it. And we would like run that corner series
Jerry Reynolds: and we'd start
Doug Christie: and, and we would pass to a latte and then everyone would get to shoot. There'd be three people, so a lot of these at the elbow or Chris. And then I'm at the wing and Bobby's in the corner, and I'd pass to Chris, and then I'd go screen.
Bobby or Bobby had come screened me, or I passed a Bobby and go's screen and we'd be having fun and talking and laughing, but we would cover every. Possible option of what could happen. And then it changed because every single person likes something different, pays you wanting to shoot the three. So the screen that I had to set for him made the guy go underneath, Bobby wanted to get down.
He also, the screen I set for him, and then it was a behind the back pass and overdid, and I never realized. Those fundamentals. We practiced it. We did that every day. It was like three lines, two, which I hated. Yup. But now I learned to love something that was so monotonous, but by the time the people got to see it, it was so polished and I don't understand.
We, I watched these guys and I'm thinking fundamentally like. Why wouldn't you do that? You know what I mean? I
Jerry Reynolds: do. I mean, I was going to say, I mean, that was, you guys were definitely ahead of the curve bringing five man basketball
Doug Christie: back. You know, where
Jerry Reynolds: everybody's
Doug Christie: involved, the Knicks and the Sonics, and
Jerry Reynolds: you know, some of the, and even, uh, the early eighties of the Lakers and Celtics, they were.
They truly had everybody involved in the off fence and, and, and somehow the league had gotten away from that. It became ISO ball or two man game and stuff. And quite honestly, the league is getting back to a lot of that. And
Doug Christie: again,
Jerry Reynolds: it is, and I, and I'm like you, it's like. Wait a minute. Yeah. Do you not?
Doug Christie: You know, Steve curves.
So when I came back here and I did my, my very first night Arco arena, and if you look back, it was the year that they won their first championship. It was open at night. It was golden state in Sacramento. So a, I'm doing radio and uh, they say, Oh, there's a scrum and you can go talk to Steve curse. So I'm thinking to myself as I'm a is a whole bunch of people.
I'm like, I got a question. But I don't really want to ask it. ask the question. So after it was done, he goes, Hey Doug. So now I'm going to ask my question. No one's around. So I said, Hey Steve, you know what are you going to do different than Mark Jackson did? And he looked at me and he goes, I'm going to be honest.
He said, we're going to steal what you guys did. We're going to put Bogut at the free throw line. We're going to pass and cut and move. And everyone's involved. And the unfortunate part is we don't get credit. Because we didn't win a championship. Right. Uh, but I, I would agree with you. That was the first time when I cut through a lane in the ball, ended up in my hands because before then, you're right, it was two man game.
I saw ball, throw it to the big guy, move the hell out of the way. Yeah. Or is it pick and roll, get on the other side, and now all of a sudden everyone's involved. That is how the game's supposed to be clear. Yeah.
Jerry Reynolds: And you know, by rules, you can play it that way. I always say, when I came to the league, uh, they had rules like base to go, you know, Mark Eaton or something with big as you'd set them out there above the fee and you had to garden
Doug Christie: in the parking lot.
Jerry Reynolds: wasted a defender on somebody who wasn't trying to score. I always hated, I
Doug Christie: did too.
Jerry Reynolds: What is that? You know, college you wouldn't get by, you know, but that was Don Nelson got that pushed through cause he had centers that couldn't play. So I mean really, I'll give him all the credit in the world, but he's smart enough to
Doug Christie: smart
Jerry Reynolds: enough to figure it out.
Being ahead of the game a little bit. But, but like I say, the rules really allow you to play and, and like you said, I think with golden state thing really, really. Love the way they played at their best, because people always thought, well, it's all about three point shooting, but it was, no, they, they, they cuts to the bass.
Uh, you know, they, they didn't even play some post up, but I mean, it was, uh, the full five man game. It was,
Doug Christie: to be honest with you, to get the three-pointer everything is, um. Opposites. It's like union yang. So to get the three, I got to get a layup to make you, so if I hit a Jumpshot now you respect it. I get the layup because you respect the Jumpshot, right?
If I show that I go by you, now you back up. So now I get in. That's how they play. It wasn't, I would agree with you. It wasn't just three. Did they shoot a lot of them? Sure. Yeah, they did. They kind of ushered that in because they had a couple of guys that nights. Yeah. But I mean, they, they were looking for layups.
They were looking to, you know, um,
Jerry Reynolds: ultimately in the mid range shots, staff more than happy to step inside and take an, an open 17
Doug Christie: footer and knock it down. Do you remember when we played against 'em. It was Don Nelson's team, the Dallas Mavericks, and after we beat them in the playoffs, they had those big manners up in their practice facility showing all the layups that we got against them.
And it was, the numbers were gaudy. Goodness gracious. We were getting how many labs? But that's what happens when you move people around, which brings me back to my point is. I don't get it today like, but if you don't practice the fundamentals of the game, which takes us all the way back to the beginning of the conversation.
If the game doesn't work for
Jerry Reynolds: you, you don't want to, and I'm, I've got, I know I'm too old school and, uh, I can't change, but I mean, the idea that somehow it's either a three point shot or layup or nothing else, I'll never get there because I know that you, if you can convince me that 35% shot saving three, which is as good as it could be, a 70%.
15 foot wide open jump shot.
Doug Christie: It doesn't make sense. Does that make sense? Yeah, I know. And that's where, listen, I think analytics are a tool tool in the box. Yes. And when I need it. I use it like particularly towards the end of the game or in the scouting report. You've got a guy who shoots 40 guys, shoots 30 and the guy shoots 20 that's a, B, and C.
well, the quiz is open your eyes. Which one do you run to? You know? Well, you're going to run to the guy who's shooting 40% these two you're not going to run but to, to make it. To make analytics say, I'm going to do it because of this, and take out heart and effort and enthusiasm and all the things that you can't quantify.
That drives me nuts.
Jerry Reynolds: Thing. I always remember talking to analytics guy, you know, after a game of Kings lost as well after you guys were gone. But, but I was saying, you know, coach should have taken out so and so because he was like one for 10 and the first half, you know, he's really just not. Not going to be productive, wasn't productive on, and I said, yeah.
You know, how do you know how he's going to be in the sun? He's one of your best players. I mean, to me that's that. That's the difference between actually having a feel of the game coaching and, and, and some numbers that, because you always go back to it as a Juco coach and Bob McAdoo, I'll always remember him.
One of the reasons he was, I think, great, you know, he was like. Two for 11 Oz was any amount or something like that. And he said, well, you know, if you can get me about twice as many shots, I'll make twice as many. You know what I mean? He had no,
Doug Christie: you know,
Jerry Reynolds: it came, not finally figured it out. Yeah. That's what'll happen, you know?
Doug Christie: But that's also. It goes back to fundamentals. Listen, if you miss a couple threes, you should drive to the basket. How about getting in the penalty? Get into the free throw line. I remember her confidence
Jerry Reynolds: up
Doug Christie: and Ricky Pierce, uh, Dale Ellis, boy, you get those guys to the free throw line. I see it go in once.
You can forget about it. You know what I mean? I'm like, I'm trying to play Devens and not foul because that's the last place you want to see them. Bang, bang. The next. Three is definitely going in, but it now it's just unconscious. Just shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot.
Jerry Reynolds: Yeah. I mean, I, I don't have a really, a problem with shooting threes in transition.
Even if a guy. You know, he's throwing ahead. His feet are sad. You know, he's comfortable. Absolutely. But pushing it into an, off the dribble and being challenged. And I mean, to me, those are bad shots.
Doug Christie: And it, in my opinion, it goes against the principles of the game of . You know, move the ball from side one, decide to see if you can exploit.
There's a cat and mouse part of it too, as opposed to just, and you know, baseball is seeing this with launch angles and different things. Now, you know, there are no button no more. You know, you're not moving a guy from first to second swing for an offense. So, but that's all analytics, which is. Th th there's gray people.
It's not just black and it's not just white. There are shades of gray and the teams who ultimately play in those areas, they are the ones that win, in my opinion. And I mean, if you look at Chi Leonard, he's not, I mean, he shoots the three the last year. Mid range all day range,
Jerry Reynolds: mid range, and jewelry, and, and you know, and he's not what you call a great athlete.
No, he's a good athlete. Yes, he is, you know, with huge, but I mean, man, he's not explosive quickness or anything, but it's fundamental sound and sound and just keeps . Keeps breaking you down with what he's good at.
Doug Christie: Yes. And that's, uh, that's why I, whenever I, I'm working with, I preached the fundamentals. I know that it's, it may be boring, but you look at a guy like Colby, and to him, boring was the most spectacular thing in the world, right?
Yeah. My first year here, um. We made the playoffs in the Laker swept us. So I'm having a bit of success against him and he shooting and uh, and I'm a right on top of it, hands in his face, just boom, right on top of it. And he's missing in the next year. We come back and it might've been a preseason, I can't remember, but I'm, I'm so, I'm thinking we're going to do the same thing.
Right. Right on top of it. But the sound that I hear behind me as, I mean, he's probably spent all summer with a hand in his face to the point where he could close his eyes, but that was the length, the distance that he was willing to go. And that's why I, I respect how he went about his business, because that is.
For a lot of players that would be boring for him. It was the most spectacular thing of all time.
Jerry Reynolds: do you think he had the same drive as Jordan? You know, I mean, really. I mean, he, he, he, he was just so focused, so folk and, and I mean, just a relentless
Doug Christie: score.
Jerry Reynolds: And, uh, yeah, I, I, you know, it's one of those things that, you know.
In may, many ways. Maybe he's even Michael's equal. I don't know that he was, but it's awfully darn close.
Doug Christie: Yeah. He, I think out of everyone, he probably got as close as you could. yeah, yeah. Um, Michael was a different animal. Well, he was, so, he, he was, he was different and you know, so we're playing them in Toronto 72 and 10, and one of those losses is against the lowly Raptors I'll be doing.
And. You remember Alvin Robinson? Yes. So I'm garden Mike most of the game and, but he and Mike are friends, you know, played on an Olympic team together and they're all walkers. Our coach and Daryl goes, it's a last play it again. And Daryl goes, all right Alvin, you go, you're going to get Michael blah blah blah.
And he starts talking and everyone kind of gets quiet cause Alvin didn't say anything. And so we all kind of look it out and like what? And he goes. He goes, Daryl, you know, Doug's really been garden and give the kid a shot. Let him let him stick him. And I'm thinking, first of all, I'm thinking bale. Oh boy.
But it worked. But what I gained out of that game is he would hit me and I would hit him and we were pulling in, fighting and never wants. Did he ever say anything to the referee? Never, ever. I respected that so much out of him. He just, he's like, I'm going to handle it. right here. And if he did, he would walk over to the ref and he had put his shirt over his head so that he is in disrespecting and rough and showing him up.
Let me get my point across. It was probably a couple of bleeps in there, but the point is, and I always thought out of all the. Great players. Cause I, I guarded Kobe and LeBron and, and that guy was different. I had never experienced anything like that. That's why I put him, uh, MJ on a different pedestal than when I, when I look at the rest of them, about half two.
Yeah. He was special.
Jerry Reynolds: I mean, and I always remember just. You know, in his early career, your fourth or fifth year when he was greatest score in the league, he's also the best defender. Oh, I'll never get the game. He, we were playing them in the old Chicago stadium and, and late in the game and we had kind of a chance to win and he gets, Reggie theists had had.
Strong game and he switched off to Reggie and Reggie couldn't get off a shot. I mean, I mean, could not get off the
Doug Christie: shot. I mean, that's saying a lot.
Jerry Reynolds: Yeah. I mean, he,
Doug Christie: if you don't read, you read you
Jerry Reynolds: like, first of all, running hook, but he couldn't, I mean, that was like, Whoa. That's when it kinda like dawned on me like, Holy cow, this guy is the real deal.
Yeah. This don't make
Doug Christie: many of these know it because it was the, it was the drive and the determination. And the will, like, you know, there was no internet, there was no Twitter and all that. So he looked, he would get a newspaper, he had to, people get a newspaper the next day in the city that he just left to read it, to look for motivation to, Oh, you said that.
Oh, next time I see you, here's 55
Jerry Reynolds: and I love the two. The fact, you know, he was a late developer. Yes. It wasn't heavily recruited, right. Until his senior year. And yeah, but, but even then wasn't considered one of the top. 20 or 30. Yes. You know, and so I always say, you know, be aware of the sure thing. High school American kind of thing.
No doubt that most of the true greats, if you look at it, aren't art. No, it ain't there. They're kind of late, a little little
Doug Christie: on the shoulders.
Jerry Reynolds: Uh, you know, I mean, almost go down the list. I mean, there's a few, you know, little bronze or the exception to every rule, but, uh, not many of those. But Hey, I wanted to kind of get into you.
You know, now, you know, obviously your, your careers is what it was, uh, several times a defensive player of the year and, and obviously played on great teams with the Kings. And I think people are, you know, are aware of that. And I think. Now it's a little different phase of your life,
Doug Christie: honestly.
Jerry Reynolds: I mean, you've done radio, you're doing TV, and, and obviously I, I just, you know, just from a personal point of view and what you enjoy watching you, because you bring a, a player's perspective to what's happening on the court.
You know what I mean? That's, you know, I always said, I, there's, I've never, I've always respected that to where players really understand. The game and there's, I just know my brief experience in the league, you know, there's been, it's just been a few players that I think really got it. The whole game. Right.
You know, like in my mind, the Danny angels, I mean, it's in my mind a lot like yourself. I mean, really, really understood.
Doug Christie: Exactly. Oh boy.
Jerry Reynolds: Well, hell. I mean, I mean, Mike Woodson and Eddie, John and all those guys, I mean, you knew they, they knew not just the game, but they knew it from as a team. Uh, they also looked at it from their owns.
PO point of view, and I think that's very different. I think a lot of players know from their position.
Doug Christie: Yes. You know, oddly enough, what I I started trying to do is I tried to learn every single position on the floor. And what I say is a macro view, meaning that when I look at basketball, a lot of it's the big vision.
It doesn't matter if it's the individual or the team, the big vision for the individual. Is if I give them a ball and I say a doing side out and shoot a shot, well, there's a lot of little pieces that go to making that happen. And that's why as I, as I look, whether it's like I say individual or a team, I try to, I try to dissect whether it's because I enjoy listening to you because you, you had fun.
Why you did it? Uh, Terry Bradshaw, I like him. He has fun, fun. But then, um. There. There's, there's people like UV Brown, one of my favorite, give you a
Jerry Reynolds: clinic. He teaches you. Yeah.
Doug Christie: So I, I've kind of plagiarized a lot of you guys that I, I try to bring all that, I like to have fun, but at the same time, I love the game of basketball.
I love the nuances of the game. And that's what, when I'm looking, because I kind of bring a little bit of how I studied a player to the way I go about it, because you know. You're playing against Kobe Bryant, you're looking for any little thing and nuance. I'll give you one for a LeBron, LeBron dribbles a ball.
And I said this like three or four years ago and I was surprised no one ever picked it up. But when he's driven the ball behind the three point line, and if he looks down at it, he's about to shoot to shoot it. And as a defender I would jump all over that cause I'm looking for anything. So when I, the thing with Coby and the face, Colby was so fanatical, he took it.
He took it away from you. He didn't allow you to have that. And that's a powerful thing cause some guys can't get out of their own way, meaning that if they have a habit, they're going to stay in that habit. And that's when I'm, when I'm watching whether a guy likes to lace the ball up before he shoots it, meaning get the lines all lined up.
Cause some guys, a buddy likes to do that. He catches it and he tries to line it up real quick and that little extra time. In this game is a difference in getting your shot off and not getting the shot off and, um, jumped on your leg and I'm biting. Hold on. Tight. Yeah. So when I'm, when I'm talking about it, those are the types of things that I try to look for too.
And at the same time, try to try to have fun. Some people like it, some people don't
Jerry Reynolds: for sure. I mean, you're never going to absolutely satisfy everybody. You know? I always say, dude, I think that. The guy I liked the most on TV was Steve curve
Doug Christie: when he was
Jerry Reynolds: good. I agree. You know what I mean? He had a great sense of humor and yet, you know, gave you, yes, you know, gave you his, his thoughts on the game and issues, things like that.
I always thought that to me, he was, I think a lot of the national guys I don't enjoy as much because they. They seem to meet to talk over the game instead of about the game. You, I always say, well, I do need it. Tell me about what's going on here. Now I realize if it's 30 points down and
Doug Christie: now we got to come up with
Jerry Reynolds: do, but I mean, it's like, well, no, I don't need to know
Doug Christie: all the stuff off.
Jerry Reynolds: So anyway, yeah. You know, I mean, it's just kind of a. You know, kind of interesting, you know, too, I mean, you've been through the whole thing in the league. I mean, when you came to the league, you know, teams had a couple of assistant coaches, you, you know, basically you have what, six or seven and a bunch of development coaches and all that.
And I'm always happy to have, see guys have jobs, people have jobs and gals, but, but I mean, I do think it's head coach now seem to be almost more of a, uh, like a football coach, a, uh, a CEO on this. You know, cause you got, it's
Doug Christie: different. It's different, you know. Um, so God rest his soul. David, uh, David stern, who just passed away when he came into the NBA in 84, he had 24 people that worked in the league office with him.
24, 24 and now this is a global, massive empire. So when we, we look and we talk about coaching. I think coaching today, in my opinion, is much more psychology in player development because you're getting the player as such a young age that. Unless they got some just tremendous coaching before you got them.
Think about deer and Fox. He goes through high school. He probably plays aU , a U coaching in my opinion, not to kill, cause there are some good AAU coaches out there, but it's a factory. Okay, so you got that for four years, plus whatever you get in high school. Then he goes to Kentucky for five months, you know, I mean that's, and so now he's yours.
And if you can not develop a player, but the problem with developing a player, it's not the same way that it used to be. Meaning that you can't say, Doug, get your butt out there and do it. And I go, yes sir. Now it's kind of like, wow, I want to do that for, you know, like, so it's the psychology of getting in and getting to know them so that they trust you enough to listen and respect and be willing to sacrifice of their time.
Imagine that to do whatever it is, it, it's, it's, it's changed so much and. The people who get that and understand that in my opinion in the MBA are going to, in professional sports in general, are going to have a lot of success. And those that don't are going to have constant new coaches coming in and they will perpetually be at the bottom of the league.
Jerry Reynolds: opinion. I couldn't agree more there. I mean, it really is true. I think the game has changed. No question. And these, and, and I do think that a lot of the, like you say, a lot of the young players really do, uh. Need the fundamentals, need, need, coach, need taught, need more patience and discipline as well.
Doug Christie: All,
Jerry Reynolds: all of the above. And, and, uh, you know, cause they're just not ready. I mean, there's just so few that are ready to, you know,
Doug Christie: be successful right away.
Jerry Reynolds: I always say even, uh. You know, you look at the great success at a Trey young or Luca dontcha just having, but, but there's some issues there. I mean, they probably, it's not their fault necessarily.
I mean, probably over handling a little bit, you know, they'll take some bad shots and all that. I mean, at some point they probably both, you really need to be real back a little bit. Oh yes. And I mean, and uh, you know, cause they can be. Just major stars regardless, you know, and you know, it's kind of a little bit, even the great Jordan, you know, I mean, Phil Jackson, you don't need to score 37 30 old work
Doug Christie: and the seven goes to your teammates.
They're involved now. They feel like they want to run harder and work all the different things. Yeah. Even with with Luca, because we have that, the great, you know, debate about Luke has been a professional. Since he was 14 years old. I mean, he's playing against grown men and people go, well, what really does that do?
Well. As soon as you, cause I grew up playing against grown men with alcohol on their breath, on the playground. Okay? So I don't get to shoot right now. Yeah, you give me the ball kit. Well, that's the same thing that happened to him. So now what do you do? You learn how to play out there. You learn how to not
Jerry Reynolds: make mistakes
Doug Christie: and fit in and all the nuances, and then slowly.
You work your way up to where you're the man, but it takes a second.
Jerry Reynolds: Well, you know, the other thing on that too is I always tell people, I said, you know, 30 years ago. The, you know, being a top European player playing against the co didn't mean
Doug Christie: as much. No.
Jerry Reynolds: Now, I mean, what, what does the top of European players are playing against is way better than the college in college used to be.
If you took North Carolina, one of the best. Yeah, college teams to Europe, they'd kick kick their butts. Now is not the opposite. They will get destroyed over there. They will. And that's what's changed. And I think a lot of times fans, the media don't understand that.
Doug Christie: You know, oddly enough, I was talking to a patient , uh, or I think it was just patient about this, and he was saying that it, things have changed here.
We run our kids through cones and they play AAU basketball. But over there they play on the playground. And that's why when you see a guy like a NERC itch and a yoke itch and these skilled in, you're like, wow, you know, like the nuances
Jerry Reynolds: where they'd been taught like used to
Doug Christie: be. Exactly. And that's, that's the
Jerry Reynolds: flip.
They've been brought up. Right with the fundamentals and which blows me away. Say, yeah, NERC itch. I mean, a Chad watched him last night, you know, I mean, he's slow. You think, how can this guy do it?
Doug Christie: He's the old guy on the court that you go. Yeah. Why does he keep winning? What is it about, you can't stop that guy.
Yeah. Just neck,
Jerry Reynolds: back, shit down. Shoots over. He makes all the passes, all the passes. Oh yeah. No, it's a, you know, it is a little bit of a throwback,
Doug Christie: yes. Mentality to the game.
Jerry Reynolds: No doubt. I, uh, well, anyway, it's, I mean, it's, it is really interesting, you know, because I, I, I think it, uh, you know, the game. It is, you know, kind of evolving.
It always does evolve in one way or another. I, I, I, I, since I, I think that probably the three point shot is overdone now.
Doug Christie: Yeah. I love it.
Jerry Reynolds: But, but I think it's been good cause it gives smaller players, more skilled players a chance to play on the floor as opposed to, you know, back in the sixties and seventies when I started watching, it was just a power game.
A small guard had no chance, cause they'd just knock him around. Beat him up, you know, back in town. So, so, you know, now you got, you know, space, space and, and all that. But, but I just asked your opinion on, I say ours, I'm convinced that the league should eliminate the corner three, you know, just take the arch and then take it out to the sideline.
And to me what it would do. First of all, it's a cheaper shot. So that's why I don't think should wear three but, but I mean, get back to the fast breaks and the open court guys going hard to the basket and
Doug Christie: you know, oddly enough, as you say that, Jerry, because I agree with you. But do you remember where were players used to run the lanes and then they didn't run all the way through?
Oh yeah. Well now guys, because of that corner three, they stopped. I stopped. And it messes up the flow of the game. there's so many different aspects and I think that, I think you make a valuable point. You, you draw that line right into the sidelines. Boom. So now everything above that is a three pointer and everything below that is a two.
And if you're below that. You better be moving around and yeah,
Jerry Reynolds: when you say you come down on fast break and guys are blasting to the basket and I, and I know, you know, fans say, what are the three point shots left? I agree,
Doug Christie: I agree. But there's enough of
Jerry Reynolds: them and they're worth it out there, but, but to me, boy, how much fun is a guy just blasting his way to the basket on a three on two or three if something like that.
And lay up or down
Doug Christie: part of why guys sit in the corner when there's a pick and roll on one side and the ball moves around in it, and then they go, okay, it's going to swing all the way to the corner. Well, because it's still worth three points. Whereas now you're going to have to think outside the box and you might
Jerry Reynolds: create, you might get a little more post play, which I still think, you know, I, I, to me, that's part of basketball.
It, it should be allowed to post up.
Doug Christie: Oh, no doubt. Or small guys
Jerry Reynolds: or small guys,
Doug Christie: English players,
Jerry Reynolds: you know, I mean like a Harrison Mark. Flash him down there, post him up as an advantage. Uh, I just think it makes for would make for better basketball, or
Doug Christie: you need to write the league, let them know Jerry Reynolds,
Jerry Reynolds: and they say, well, go away.
You're old. Go away. Don't come back. But anyway, well, I. I know you've got other things to do today, but I, I'll tell you what, this has been just a blast. Just, you know, always, you know, I tell people, I'll tell you, you know, when you get a talk mash ball with Doug Christie, you can learn a lot, but I mean, you've, you've probably got, you know, you've had a marvelous career, and I think it.
You can see why from, you know, how you prepare yourself and how you've sacrificed. I mean, to me, that's what's supposed to happen. I agree. You know, that, uh, okay. I, you know, got the talent. Gotta find a way to, to make it work, make it work. And, uh, you know, push, you know, besides being terrific on TV, I tell him all the time, by the way, that be a great coach.
But, but, uh, you
Doug Christie: know, that one day, you never know.
Jerry Reynolds: You never know. No. You never know. You never know. And, uh. You know, may not, you may, even if you do it, you might say, Hey, that's just ridiculous. I
Doug Christie: doubt that. I enjoy teaching, man. It, there's, there's nothing like it. It's a beautiful game. Plus Jerry, and you know this, I hate watching bad basketball.
It's the worst thing of all time.
Jerry Reynolds: Oh, I just make you
Doug Christie: please check. Make it beautiful, man.
Jerry Reynolds: How are you saying? You know, years ago when I was. Young and enjoy, you know, I, I, the happiest I would be with in, especially a college division would be having me a rack of balls and a two, three hour to practice, you know, I mean, nothing like, and, uh, so anyway, but, I want to just take this moment then to the thinker, Doug Christie, and, you know, maybe we can do this again sometime.
Doug Christie: Jerry, let me know.
Jerry Reynolds: You know, one of the all time greats here in Sacramento, and I know you enjoyed watching him play and you enjoy listening and watching him on television and, uh, keep doing it. Thank you, sir. So this is, uh, the Jerry Reynolds show, such as it is.
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